[Iana-transition] NRO Proposal for consolidation of RIR regional inputs into single ICG response

Travis Biehn tbiehn at gmail.com
Thu Oct 16 20:07:21 EDT 2014


On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Jason Schiller <jschiller at google.com>
wrote:

> Travis,
>
> You mentioned "proposing that NGO's CRISP be amended to include the
> following obligations and restrictions on appointees. "
>
> Would it be acceptable to you to constrain the discussion to the ARIN
> selection process, and not proscribe requirements on the other 4 RIRs?
>

We're discussing the NRO proposal, which necessarily impacts all of the
RIRs. I am responding to John Curran's request for solution to the
deficiencies identified in thread NRO's CRISP proposal.

Specifically "If a RIR is to agree to a 2/3rds majority vote, then
potentials for collusion should be minimized by more explicit terms for
appointees to the 'CRISP Team.'"

So for the purposes of this thread - no, I can't.

__Jason
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Travis Biehn <tbiehn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't enjoy the idea of having any member of an RIR appoint the two
>> non-staff appointees. I'd like to see that as a hard rule.
>>
>> To be fully unambiguous, I am proposing that NGO's CRISP be amended to
>> include the following obligations and restrictions on appointees.
>>
>> All appointees:
>>
>> Must lodge their interest publicly. [On relevant publicly Read and Write
>> mailing lists.]
>> Must identify themselves and demonstrate that they are physically and
>> spiritually [demonstrate non-trivial ties] part of the RIR that serves them
>> and they intend to represent.
>> Must disclose all organizations, clubs and boards which they are members
>> of. This is meant to include current and past employers for the past 5
>> years.
>> Must substantiate their qualifications and how they are able to dedicate
>> the time and effort requisite of establishing a solution fitting the global
>> communities best interest. [On an hour / day, week basis.]
>>
>> There is some verification of facts performed here.
>>
>> A dice is rolled, if the selected appointee overlaps in employment or
>> membership (that is - a potential for the perception of cronyism is
>> identified) in any way with an existing appointee they are disqualified. (A
>> dice roll can here be substituted with some publicly verifiable source of
>> random bits...)
>>
>> -Travis
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:38 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:30 PM, Gary Buhrmaster <gary.buhrmaster at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:21 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> > ...
>>> >> Is there a particular suggestion that you would propose?
>>> >
>>> > Let the AC do an internal nomination/election.  They
>>> > are our reps.
>>>
>>> That's an option... I'd like to ask the ARIN AC (and the ASO
>>> AC folks from the region, who have experience on multi-region
>>> teleconferences) both for volunteers, and then let the AC
>>> choose two.
>>>
>>> The two folks chosen will almost certainly have to be heavily
>>> involved in the drafting of the ARIN region submission (i.e.
>>> I _do_ expect that CRISP appointees to lead in assembly of
>>> the views on this mailing list into the ARIN region input...
>>>
>>> Thoughts on the above?
>>> /John
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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