<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:00 PM, Jason Schiller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jschiller@google.com" target="_blank">jschiller@google.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Travis,<div><br></div><div>You mentioned "<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">proposing that NGO's CRISP be amended to include the following obligations and restrictions on appointees. "</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Would it be acceptable to you to constrain the discussion to the ARIN selection process, and not proscribe requirements on the other 4 RIRs? </font></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>We're discussing the NRO proposal, which necessarily impacts all of the RIRs. I am responding to John Curran's request for solution to the deficiencies identified in thread NRO's CRISP proposal.</div><div><br></div><div>Specifically "<span style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">If a RIR is to agree to a 2/3rds majority vote, then potentials for collusion should be minimized by more explicit terms for appointees to the 'CRISP Team.'</span>" </div><div><br></div><div>So for the purposes of this thread - no, I can't.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>__Jason</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:55 PM, Travis Biehn <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tbiehn@gmail.com" target="_blank">tbiehn@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr"><div>I don't enjoy the idea of having any member of an RIR appoint the two non-staff appointees. I'd like to see that as a hard rule.</div><div><br></div><div>To be fully unambiguous, I am proposing that NGO's CRISP be amended to include the following obligations and restrictions on appointees. </div><div><br></div><div>All appointees:</div><div><br></div><div>Must lodge their interest publicly. [On relevant publicly Read and Write mailing lists.]<br></div><div>Must identify themselves and demonstrate that they are physically and spiritually [demonstrate non-trivial ties] part of the RIR that serves them and they intend to represent.</div><div>Must disclose all organizations, clubs and boards which they are members of. This is meant to include current and past employers for the past 5 years.</div><div>Must substantiate their qualifications and how they are able to dedicate the time and effort requisite of establishing a solution fitting the global communities best interest. [On an hour / day, week basis.]<br></div><div><br></div><div>There is some verification of facts performed here.</div><div><br></div><div>A dice is rolled, if the selected appointee overlaps in employment or membership (that is - a potential for the perception of cronyism is identified) in any way with an existing appointee they are disqualified. (A dice roll can here be substituted with some publicly verifiable source of random bits...)</div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>-Travis</div><div><br></div></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:38 PM, John Curran <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net" target="_blank">jcurran@arin.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:30 PM, Gary Buhrmaster <<a href="mailto:gary.buhrmaster@gmail.com" target="_blank">gary.buhrmaster@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:21 PM, John Curran <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net" target="_blank">jcurran@arin.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> ...<br>
>> Is there a particular suggestion that you would propose?<br>
><br>
> Let the AC do an internal nomination/election. They<br>
> are our reps.<br>
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</div></div>That's an option... I'd like to ask the ARIN AC (and the ASO<br>
AC folks from the region, who have experience on multi-region<br>
teleconferences) both for volunteers, and then let the AC<br>
choose two.<br>
<br>
The two folks chosen will almost certainly have to be heavily<br>
involved in the drafting of the ARIN region submission (i.e.<br>
I _do_ expect that CRISP appointees to lead in assembly of<br>
the views on this mailing list into the ARIN region input...<br>
<br>
Thoughts on the above?<br>
<span><font color="#888888">/John<br>
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