[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

Jason Schiller jschiller at google.com
Thu Feb 1 14:25:08 EST 2018


I aggree with Owen's view on this matter.

There is nothing special about the specific set of numbers, just the right
to use a set of number for a given prupose.

There is no shortage of these types of numbers.
I think our community rejected the arguement that somone couldn't make an
ASN larger than 65535 work.

That being said we should provide some flexibility in helping people
transition between the old and new numbers.
I don't beleive we need a policy around this.


__Jason

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:40 AM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:

> IMHO, yes.
>
> For A), I’m not sure I see the need to support these transactions. We
> don’t support them for IPv6 (nor do I think we want to).
> Sales of IPv4 addresses were a stop-gap to deal with a situation of
> scarcity, free pool exhaustion, and getting by until v6
> is widely enough deployed. Hopefully they will eventually go away and we
> can return to more traditional forms of resource management.
>
> For B), I’m still not convinced. They can’t move their IPv6 resources (nor
> do I think we want to support doing so). The ability to move their IPv4
> resources is largely an artifact of the same scarcity/free pool exhaustion
> described above. However, my objections to solving this particular problem
> are a bit less than my objections to solving problem A).
>
> Owen
>
> On Feb 1, 2018, at 06:51 , WOOD Alison * DAS <Alison.WOOD at oregon.gov>
> wrote:
>
> Thank you all for the excellent feedback on this draft.
>
> Considering James’ suggestions, would the community prefer to take each
> point as a different proposal?  They seem to be two different solutions to
> two different issues.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Alison
>
> *From:* ARIN-PPML [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net
> <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net>] *On Behalf Of *james machado
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 31, 2018 12:47 PM
> *To:* arin-ppml at arin.net
> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional
> ASN Transfers
>
> So we seem to have 2  "problems" for this draft if I am reading correctly.
>
> A) An Entity wishes to buy/sell/transfer one or more ASN(s) to another
> Entity without regard of the destination RIR.
>
> B) Entity with one or more ASN(s) wishes to move one or more ASN(s) to a
> new RIR, possibly complementing an IP move, to begin/continue operations in
> the destination RIR.
>
> James
>
>
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