[arin-ppml] Revised: ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement for Inter-RIR Transfers

[David Farmer]

I just confirmed ARIN staff has the same interpretation as I said below,
the following is from the Staff & Legal Assessment at;

https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_4.html

A snapshot of the current existing "total" RIR IPv4 inventories computed
based on the extended stats file are:

ARIN has 1.687 billion IPv4 addresses in its inventory.
APNIC has 881 million IPv4 addresses in its inventory.
RIPE has 822 million IPv4 addresses in its inventory.
LACNIC has 191 million IPv4 addresses in its inventory.
AFRINIC has 121 million IPv4 addresses in its inventory.
Global average: 740 million IPv4 addresses.

Thanks

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Can we get a definition of "IPv4 total inventory"?
>>
>
> Is all IPv4 address space held by the RIR in any pools and that which has
> been allocated or assigned, legacy or otherwise.
>
> I think you are thinking of RIR free pools or available inventory, not
> total inventory.
>
> Look at the NRO slides;
> https://www.nro.net/wp-content/uploads/NRO_Q2_2017.pdf
> Slide #5 comes close, but I think it is missing legacy resources, so ARIN
> has even more than is shown there.
>
> The point here is that LACNIC and AFRINIC have way less total inventory
> and one could argue they don't have a fair share of the global IPv4
> resource pool. Therefore requiring them to have a reciprocal transfer
> policies is some what insensitive to how the IPv4 resources are currently
> divided on a global level.
>
> More than 10 /8s would have to be transferred to LACNIC and AFRINIC each
> before the had any where near the average total IPv4 inventory of all the
> RIRs.
>
>
>> Do reserves of all flavors count?
>> Does ARIN staff whip out the calculators on the day the transfer request
>> is
>> received?
>> Will they hold transfers in abeyance until the ratios work out, then
>> quickly
>> process them?
>> Does this provide an incentive for LACNIC and AFRINIC to rid themselves of
>> IPv4 reserves?
>> Are all RIR inventories updated daily?
>>
>> The average could change throughout the day unless the RIRs publish at the
>> same time. Imagine the situation of a buyer in AFRINIC, biting his nails
>> to
>> see whether a change in APNIC or RIPE will allow his transfer to go
>> through
>> today.
>>
>> I support the policy but it would be far better to lose that additional
>> sentence. Just drop the world reciprocal and if problems arise they can be
>> dealt with later.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike Burns
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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