<div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_extra">I just confirmed ARIN staff has the same interpretation as I said below, the following is from the Staff & Legal Assessment at;<br><br><a href="https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_4.html">https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_4.html</a><br><br>A snapshot of the current existing "total" RIR IPv4 inventories computed based on the extended stats file are:<br><br>ARIN has 1.687 billion IPv4 addresses in its inventory.<br>APNIC has 881 million IPv4 addresses in its inventory.<br>RIPE has 822 million IPv4 addresses in its inventory.<br>LACNIC has 191 million IPv4 addresses in its inventory.<br>AFRINIC has 121 million IPv4 addresses in its inventory.<br>Global average: 740 million IPv4 addresses.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Thanks</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:31 PM, David Farmer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farmer@umn.edu" target="_blank">farmer@umn.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Mike Burns <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mike@iptrading.com" target="_blank">mike@iptrading.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
Can we get a definition of "IPv4 total inventory"?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Is all IPv4 address space held by the RIR in any pools and that which has been allocated or assigned, legacy or otherwise.</div><div><br></div><div>I think you are thinking of RIR free pools or available inventory, not total inventory.</div><div><br></div><div>Look at the NRO slides;</div><div><a href="https://www.nro.net/wp-content/uploads/NRO_Q2_2017.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.nro.net/wp-<wbr>content/uploads/NRO_Q2_2017.<wbr>pdf</a><br></div><div>Slide #5 comes close, but I think it is missing legacy resources, so ARIN has even more than is shown there. <br></div><div><br></div><div><div>The point here is that LACNIC and AFRINIC have way less total inventory and one could argue they don't have a fair share of the global IPv4 resource pool. Therefore requiring them to have a reciprocal transfer policies is some what insensitive to how the IPv4 resources are currently divided on a global level. </div></div><div><br></div><div>More than 10 /8s would have to be transferred to LACNIC and AFRINIC each before the had any where near the average total IPv4 inventory of all the RIRs.</div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Do reserves of all flavors count?<br>
Does ARIN staff whip out the calculators on the day the transfer request is<br>
received?<br>
Will they hold transfers in abeyance until the ratios work out, then quickly<br>
process them?<br>
Does this provide an incentive for LACNIC and AFRINIC to rid themselves of<br>
IPv4 reserves?<br>
Are all RIR inventories updated daily?<br>
<br>
The average could change throughout the day unless the RIRs publish at the<br>
same time. Imagine the situation of a buyer in AFRINIC, biting his nails to<br>
see whether a change in APNIC or RIPE will allow his transfer to go through<br>
today.<br>
<br>
I support the policy but it would be far better to lose that additional<br>
sentence. Just drop the world reciprocal and if problems arise they can be<br>
dealt with later.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Mike Burns<br>
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