[arin-ppml] Revised: ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement for Inter-RIR Transfers

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Wed Sep 6 17:18:52 EDT 2017


If it includes all IPv4 whether allocated or not, then I am opposed to the policy once again.

It completely defeats the purpose of the qualifier.

Owen

> On Sep 6, 2017, at 12:31 , David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
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> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com <mailto:mike at iptrading.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Can we get a definition of "IPv4 total inventory"?
> 
> Is all IPv4 address space held by the RIR in any pools and that which has been allocated or assigned, legacy or otherwise.
> 
> I think you are thinking of RIR free pools or available inventory, not total inventory.
> 
> Look at the NRO slides;
> https://www.nro.net/wp-content/uploads/NRO_Q2_2017.pdf <https://www.nro.net/wp-content/uploads/NRO_Q2_2017.pdf>
> Slide #5 comes close, but I think it is missing legacy resources, so ARIN has even more than is shown there. 
> 
> The point here is that LACNIC and AFRINIC have way less total inventory and one could argue they don't have a fair share of the global IPv4 resource pool. Therefore requiring them to have a reciprocal transfer policies is some what insensitive to how the IPv4 resources are currently divided on a global level. 
> 
> More than 10 /8s would have to be transferred to LACNIC and AFRINIC each before the had any where near the average total IPv4 inventory of all the RIRs.
>  
> Do reserves of all flavors count?
> Does ARIN staff whip out the calculators on the day the transfer request is
> received?
> Will they hold transfers in abeyance until the ratios work out, then quickly
> process them?
> Does this provide an incentive for LACNIC and AFRINIC to rid themselves of
> IPv4 reserves?
> Are all RIR inventories updated daily?
> 
> The average could change throughout the day unless the RIRs publish at the
> same time. Imagine the situation of a buyer in AFRINIC, biting his nails to
> see whether a change in APNIC or RIPE will allow his transfer to go through
> today.
> 
> I support the policy but it would be far better to lose that additional
> sentence. Just drop the world reciprocal and if problems arise they can be
> dealt with later.
> 
> Regards,
> Mike Burns
> 
> 
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