[arin-ppml] Revised: ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement for Inter-RIR Transfers

[Scott Leibrand]

+1 (support as written)

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 12:39 PM, Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com> wrote:

> Ah! Thank you David!
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> I though it meant available inventory.
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> I am okay with the sentence in that case and I understand why it was
> placed there.
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> I support the policy as written.
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> Regards,
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> Mike
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> *From:* David Farmer [mailto:farmer at umn.edu]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 06, 2017 3:31 PM
> *To:* Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com>
> *Cc:* ARIN <info at arin.net>; arin-ppml at arin.net
> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] Revised: ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity
> Requirement for Inter-RIR Transfers
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> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> Can we get a definition of "IPv4 total inventory"?
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> Is all IPv4 address space held by the RIR in any pools and that which has
> been allocated or assigned, legacy or otherwise.
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> I think you are thinking of RIR free pools or available inventory, not
> total inventory.
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> Look at the NRO slides;
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> https://www.nro.net/wp-content/uploads/NRO_Q2_2017.pdf
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> Slide #5 comes close, but I think it is missing legacy resources, so ARIN
> has even more than is shown there.
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> The point here is that LACNIC and AFRINIC have way less total inventory
> and one could argue they don't have a fair share of the global IPv4
> resource pool. Therefore requiring them to have a reciprocal transfer
> policies is some what insensitive to how the IPv4 resources are currently
> divided on a global level.
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> More than 10 /8s would have to be transferred to LACNIC and AFRINIC each
> before the had any where near the average total IPv4 inventory of all the
> RIRs.
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> Do reserves of all flavors count?
> Does ARIN staff whip out the calculators on the day the transfer request is
> received?
> Will they hold transfers in abeyance until the ratios work out, then
> quickly
> process them?
> Does this provide an incentive for LACNIC and AFRINIC to rid themselves of
> IPv4 reserves?
> Are all RIR inventories updated daily?
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> The average could change throughout the day unless the RIRs publish at the
> same time. Imagine the situation of a buyer in AFRINIC, biting his nails to
> see whether a change in APNIC or RIPE will allow his transfer to go through
> today.
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> I support the policy but it would be far better to lose that additional
> sentence. Just drop the world reciprocal and if problems arise they can be
> dealt with later.
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> Regards,
> Mike Burns
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