[arin-ppml] Revised: ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement for Inter-RIR Transfers

[Mike Burns]

Ah! Thank you David!

I though it meant available inventory.

 

I am okay with the sentence in that case and I understand why it was placed there.

I support the policy as written.

 

Regards,

Mike

 

 

From: David Farmer [mailto:farmer at umn.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 3:31 PM
To: Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com>
Cc: ARIN <info at arin.net>; arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised: ARIN-2017-4: Remove Reciprocity Requirement for Inter-RIR Transfers

 

 

 

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com <mailto:mike at iptrading.com> > wrote:


Hi,

Can we get a definition of "IPv4 total inventory"?

 

Is all IPv4 address space held by the RIR in any pools and that which has been allocated or assigned, legacy or otherwise.

 

I think you are thinking of RIR free pools or available inventory, not total inventory.

 

Look at the NRO slides;

https://www.nro.net/wp-content/uploads/NRO_Q2_2017.pdf

Slide #5 comes close, but I think it is missing legacy resources, so ARIN has even more than is shown there. 

 

The point here is that LACNIC and AFRINIC have way less total inventory and one could argue they don't have a fair share of the global IPv4 resource pool. Therefore requiring them to have a reciprocal transfer policies is some what insensitive to how the IPv4 resources are currently divided on a global level. 

 

More than 10 /8s would have to be transferred to LACNIC and AFRINIC each before the had any where near the average total IPv4 inventory of all the RIRs.

 

Do reserves of all flavors count?
Does ARIN staff whip out the calculators on the day the transfer request is
received?
Will they hold transfers in abeyance until the ratios work out, then quickly
process them?
Does this provide an incentive for LACNIC and AFRINIC to rid themselves of
IPv4 reserves?
Are all RIR inventories updated daily?

The average could change throughout the day unless the RIRs publish at the
same time. Imagine the situation of a buyer in AFRINIC, biting his nails to
see whether a change in APNIC or RIPE will allow his transfer to go through
today.

I support the policy but it would be far better to lose that additional
sentence. Just drop the world reciprocal and if problems arise they can be
dealt with later.

Regards,
Mike Burns





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