<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">If it includes all IPv4 whether allocated or not, then I am opposed to the policy once again.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It completely defeats the purpose of the qualifier.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 6, 2017, at 12:31 , David Farmer <<a href="mailto:farmer@umn.edu" class="">farmer@umn.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Mike Burns <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:mike@iptrading.com" target="_blank" class="">mike@iptrading.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br class="">
Hi,<br class="">
<br class="">
Can we get a definition of "IPv4 total inventory"?<br class=""></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Is all IPv4 address space held by the RIR in any pools and that which has been allocated or assigned, legacy or otherwise.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think you are thinking of RIR free pools or available inventory, not total inventory.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Look at the NRO slides;</div><div class=""><a href="https://www.nro.net/wp-content/uploads/NRO_Q2_2017.pdf" class="">https://www.nro.net/wp-content/uploads/NRO_Q2_2017.pdf</a><br class=""></div><div class="">Slide #5 comes close, but I think it is missing legacy resources, so ARIN has even more than is shown there. <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">The point here is that LACNIC and AFRINIC have way less total inventory and one could argue they don't have a fair share of the global IPv4 resource pool. Therefore requiring them to have a reciprocal transfer policies is some what insensitive to how the IPv4 resources are currently divided on a global level. </div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">More than 10 /8s would have to be transferred to LACNIC and AFRINIC each before the had any where near the average total IPv4 inventory of all the RIRs.</div><div class=""> <br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Do reserves of all flavors count?<br class="">
Does ARIN staff whip out the calculators on the day the transfer request is<br class="">
received?<br class="">
Will they hold transfers in abeyance until the ratios work out, then quickly<br class="">
process them?<br class="">
Does this provide an incentive for LACNIC and AFRINIC to rid themselves of<br class="">
IPv4 reserves?<br class="">
Are all RIR inventories updated daily?<br class="">
<br class="">
The average could change throughout the day unless the RIRs publish at the<br class="">
same time. Imagine the situation of a buyer in AFRINIC, biting his nails to<br class="">
see whether a change in APNIC or RIPE will allow his transfer to go through<br class="">
today.<br class="">
<br class="">
I support the policy but it would be far better to lose that additional<br class="">
sentence. Just drop the world reciprocal and if problems arise they can be<br class="">
dealt with later.<br class="">
<br class="">
Regards,<br class="">
Mike Burns<br class="">
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