[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of Assignment Registration requirements between IPv4 and IPv6 - updated 2017-07-21

David Farmer farmer at umn.edu
Mon Jul 24 17:52:46 EDT 2017


Actually, let me revise that; I'm willing to recognize at least the
possibility there is a legitimate community interest in having records for
assignments that are shorter than /40 for IPv6 and /24 for IPv4.  Why,
those numbers?  They are the sizes at the bottom of ARIN's fee schedule, if
anything smaller is the same fee, I'm not sure where there is a compelling
community policy interest.

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 4:07 PM, David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:

> Honestly, I could live with it just those three lines.  However, I'm
> willing to recognize at least the possibility there is a legitimate
> community interest in having records for assignments that are shorter than
> /48.
>
> As for IPv4, I'd also be just fine with those three lines.  Again,
> recognizing at least the possibility there is a legitimate community
> interest in having records for assignments that are shorter than /24
>
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Tony Hain <alh-ietf at tndh.net> wrote:
>
>> While I agree with the general direction David is heading, his text is
>> still overly complex to deal with the goal. This whole thread only requires
>> 3 lines:
>>
>>
>>
>> Reallocations MUST provide SWIP.
>>
>> Requests by the assignee MUST provide SWIP.
>> Anything appearing independently in the global routing table SHOULD
>> provide SWIP.
>>
>>
>>
>> All the rest is noise that doesn’t add to solving any problem known to
>> mankind, and is simply an artifact of the IPv4-think insane conservation
>> mindset. Size is irrelevant in both protocol versions, and even if you
>> think it is, the only time it comes up is in #3. In any case the length of
>> #3 might change over time, and there is no reason the policy text needs to
>> change to track it. If something is independent, no matter what it’s length
>> is, the intent is to have accurate contact info.
>>
>>
>>
>> Saying anything more is trying to legislate ISP behavior, which is
>> explicitly outside the scope of ARIN.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tony
>>
>
>
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