<div dir="ltr">Actually, let me revise that; I'm willing to recognize at least the possibility there is a legitimate community interest in having records for assignments that are shorter than /40 for IPv6 and /24 for IPv4. Why, those numbers? They are the sizes at the bottom of ARIN's fee schedule, if anything smaller is the same fee, I'm not sure where there is a compelling community policy interest. <br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 4:07 PM, David Farmer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farmer@umn.edu" target="_blank">farmer@umn.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Honestly, I could live with it just those three lines. However, I'm willing to recognize at least the possibility there is a legitimate community interest in having records for assignments that are shorter than /48. <div><br></div><div>As for IPv4, I'd also be just fine with those three lines. Again, recognizing at least the possibility there is a legitimate community interest in having records for assignments that are shorter than /24</div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Tony Hain <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alh-ietf@tndh.net" target="_blank">alh-ietf@tndh.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_189546737009413422gmail-m_2696747385615973633WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">While I agree with the general direction David is heading, his text is still overly complex to deal with the goal. This whole thread only requires 3 lines:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Reallocations MUST provide SWIP.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Requests by the assignee MUST provide SWIP.<br>Anything appearing independently in the global routing table SHOULD provide SWIP.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">All the rest is noise that doesn’t add to solving any problem known to mankind, and is simply an artifact of the IPv4-think insane conservation mindset. Size is irrelevant in both protocol versions, and even if you think it is, the only time it comes up is in #3. In any case the length of #3 might change over time, and there is no reason the policy text needs to change to track it. If something is independent, no matter what it’s length is, the intent is to have accurate contact info. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Saying anything more is trying to legislate ISP behavior, which is explicitly outside the scope of ARIN.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Tony</span></font></p></div></div></blockquote></div><span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail-m_189546737009413422gmail_signature">==============================<wbr>=================<br>David Farmer <a href="mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu" target="_blank">Email:farmer@umn.edu</a><br>Networking & Telecommunication Services<br>Office of Information Technology<br>University of Minnesota <br>2218 University Ave SE Phone: <a href="tel:(612)%20626-0815" value="+16126260815" target="_blank">612-626-0815</a><br>Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: <a href="tel:(612)%20812-9952" value="+16128129952" target="_blank">612-812-9952</a><br>==============================<wbr>================= </div>
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