[arin-ppml] 2009.10.22 ARIN 24 day 2 part 2 notes

[Lee Howard]

I think these notes are probably very useful for a lot of people, but I wouldn't worry too much about exact wording.  I believe a transcript will be made available as part of the Meeting Report, look near https://www.arin.net/participate/meetings/ARIN-XXIV/index.html  about November 4.  You can use that as a source for exact wording or just point that way.

Lee


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>From: Matthew Petach <mpetach at netflight.com>
>To: Joe Maimon <jmaimon at chl.com>
>Cc: PPML ppml <ppml at arin.net>
>Sent: Fri, October 23, 2009 9:07:58 AM
>Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] 2009.10.22 ARIN 24 day 2 part 2 notes
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>Thanks for the corrections--it's harder to jot down the text being
>read from the remote participants, because the person reading
>it doesn't have to pause to think, the way everyone else in the
>room has to--which tends to overrun my internal buffer, leading
>>to more dropped bits in the notes.  ^_^;
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>Maybe I should put these on a twiki so they can be edited
>directly afterwards.  :)
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>Thanks again!
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>Matt
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>On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Joe Maimon <jmaimon at chl.com> wrote:
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>Thanks Matt!
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>>>>Matthew Petach wrote:
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>>>>>>Draft policy 2009-8: equitable IPv4 run-out
>>>>>>June 8th, 2009, draft policy 2009 aug 31
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>>>>>>similar policies in all regions.
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>>>>>Ted Middlestat--in favour of policy, though he doesn't
>>>>>>think policy will help; orgs who are smart will move
>>>>>>to IPv6.  The stupid ones will be gaming the system
>>>>>>anyhow, and generating bogus needs.  Orgs that need a /17
>>>>>>will generate requests for /15s instead.  The Friday
>>>>>>night party will be all the procrastinators who haven't
>>>>>>prepared, and will be out of business 6 months later.
>>>>>>So, this is harmless anyhow.
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>>>>>Joe Maimon supports the policy; if one or a few big
>>>>>>players clear out the final supply, we can end up with
>>>>>>a prime time sound bite.  ARIN should aim to prevent
>>>>>>gaming.
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>>(2:26:17 PM) jmaimon: Joe Maimon - CHL, Pronouncable in many equally correct ways, but usually as Maymin or Mymin with equal stress on each half.
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>>>>I support this policy. I think that a scenario described where all scarce resources are cleaned out by one or a few big players could be the final black eye for the rir system in the eyes of many. It may even create a prime time news sound bite. I do not believe this policy is the be all end all, but I do not believe that policies should address potential gaming, ARIN staff is responsible as always for detecting and preventing gaming.
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>>>>>Policies reviewed
>>>>>>identify invalid whois POC 2008-7
>>>>>> not fully implemented, some issues to bring to community
>>>>>> and get feedback
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>>>>>Ted; if you don't support sending email to the downstream,
>>>>>>raise policy to change NRPM.
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>>>>>>Joe Maimon, if you don't agree with this, emergency policy
>>>>>>action may be needed.
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>>(3:50:41 PM) jmaimon: Yes, but if ARIN is going to delay implementation, then emergency policy action to excise reassignments is actually more apropriate
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>>>>I made this comment to address Chris concern that a complete review occur before run out, I suggested that instead of waiting policy cycle without implementation, this could qualify for the BoT to take more prompt action.
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