[arin-ppml] Q1 - ARIN address transfer policy: why the trigger date?

Milton L Mueller mueller at syr.edu
Fri Jun 20 09:33:51 EDT 2008


Tom:
Sorry, I thought I was very clear about this. We are discussing Policy Proposal 2008-2, and the specific rationales that went into its features and design, so that we can assess what would happen if it _is_ implemented. 
 

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From: Tom Vest [mailto:tvest at pch.net]
Sent: Thu 6/19/2008 7:49 PM
To: Milton L Mueller
Cc: PPML ppml
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Q1 - ARIN address transfer policy: why the trigger date?



Hi Milton,

Are you asking for a hypothetical answer that assumes that the 
resource proposal is adopted, or a hypothetical answer that assumes 
that the proposal is not adopted and the status quo remains unchanged, 
or something else entirely?

There are many possibilities either way, but I think it would be good 
to clarify what you're looking for before everyone starts chiming in 
and creating needless confusion (c.f., the last thread on "creating a 
transfer market").

TV



On Jun 19, 2008, at 7:00 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:

> Let's start with a fairly simple question. The ARIN proposal says that
> the transfers it authorizes only start "when IANA allocates its last
> unallocated unicast IPv4 address block." What is the economic 
> rationale
> for this?
>
> If I have too much address space now, and someone else wants it, 
> what is
> the social benefit of requiring me to wait for IANA's "last 
> unallocated
> unicast ipv4 address block" to be dropped?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Leibrand [mailto:sleibrand at internap.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 6:11 PM
>> To: Milton L Mueller
>> Cc: Owen DeLong; Leo Bicknell
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN address transfer policy
>>
>> That works for me.  I'm particularly interested to start getting new
>> points discussed on PPML, and hopefully avoid too much rehashing of
> the
>> same debates we've already had repeatedly.  It sounds like your 
>> effort
>> will move us in the right direction there, so thanks in advance.
>>
>> -Scott
>>
>> Milton L Mueller wrote:
>>> Thanks to Owen, Leo and Scott for responding.
>>>
>>> Based on what you all said, it seems as if it would be best for the
>>> questions I have to be openly stated and discussed on this list.
> Most of
>>> the AC members, if not all, are probably present here and the rest
> of
>>> the list would benefit from seeing the questions answered, as many
> of
>>> them may have the same questions in mind. I'll start soon.
>>>
>>> --MM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* Owen DeLong [mailto:owen at delong.com]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 19, 2008 4:35 AM
>>> *To:* Milton L Mueller
>>> *Cc:* PPML ppml
>>> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN address transfer policy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It was a joint effort of the entire ARIN AC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Amendments can be proposed by stating what you want on the list,
> and,
>> will
>>>
>>> be implemented, if accepted, by the AC incorporating them into the
> next
>>>
>>> revision of the policy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Owen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 19, 2008, at 1:19 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am conducting a systematic analysis of the IPv4 Transfer Policy
>>> Proposal (2008-02). I would like to know who drafted the policy in
> order
>>> to ask questions (off list) about the rationale for certain
> features.
>>> Also would like to know more about the process by which amendments
> are
>>> proposed and implemented. Thanks,
>>>
>>> MM
>>>
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