[arin-ppml] Q1 - ARIN address transfer policy: why the trigger date?

[Tom Vest]

Thanks for (re)affirming that Milton.

TV

On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:33 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:

> Tom:
> Sorry, I thought I was very clear about this. We are discussing  
> Policy Proposal 2008-2, and the specific rationales that went into  
> its features and design, so that we can assess what would happen if  
> it _is_ implemented.
>
>
> From: Tom Vest [mailto:tvest at pch.net]
> Sent: Thu 6/19/2008 7:49 PM
> To: Milton L Mueller
> Cc: PPML ppml
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Q1 - ARIN address transfer policy: why the  
> trigger date?
>
> Hi Milton,
>
> Are you asking for a hypothetical answer that assumes that the
> resource proposal is adopted, or a hypothetical answer that assumes
> that the proposal is not adopted and the status quo remains unchanged,
> or something else entirely?
>
> There are many possibilities either way, but I think it would be good
> to clarify what you're looking for before everyone starts chiming in
> and creating needless confusion (c.f., the last thread on "creating a
> transfer market").
>
> TV
>
>
>
> On Jun 19, 2008, at 7:00 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>
> > Let's start with a fairly simple question. The ARIN proposal says  
> that
> > the transfers it authorizes only start "when IANA allocates its last
> > unallocated unicast IPv4 address block." What is the economic
> > rationale
> > for this?
> >
> > If I have too much address space now, and someone else wants it,
> > what is
> > the social benefit of requiring me to wait for IANA's "last
> > unallocated
> > unicast ipv4 address block" to be dropped?
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Scott Leibrand [mailto:sleibrand at internap.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 6:11 PM
> >> To: Milton L Mueller
> >> Cc: Owen DeLong; Leo Bicknell
> >> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN address transfer policy
> >>
> >> That works for me.  I'm particularly interested to start getting  
> new
> >> points discussed on PPML, and hopefully avoid too much rehashing of
> > the
> >> same debates we've already had repeatedly.  It sounds like your
> >> effort
> >> will move us in the right direction there, so thanks in advance.
> >>
> >> -Scott
> >>
> >> Milton L Mueller wrote:
> >>> Thanks to Owen, Leo and Scott for responding.
> >>>
> >>> Based on what you all said, it seems as if it would be best for  
> the
> >>> questions I have to be openly stated and discussed on this list.
> > Most of
> >>> the AC members, if not all, are probably present here and the rest
> > of
> >>> the list would benefit from seeing the questions answered, as many
> > of
> >>> them may have the same questions in mind. I'll start soon.
> >>>
> >>> --MM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >  
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> *From:* Owen DeLong [mailto:owen at delong.com]
> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 19, 2008 4:35 AM
> >>> *To:* Milton L Mueller
> >>> *Cc:* PPML ppml
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN address transfer policy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It was a joint effort of the entire ARIN AC.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Amendments can be proposed by stating what you want on the list,
> > and,
> >> will
> >>>
> >>> be implemented, if accepted, by the AC incorporating them into the
> > next
> >>>
> >>> revision of the policy.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Owen
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jun 19, 2008, at 1:19 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am conducting a systematic analysis of the IPv4 Transfer Policy
> >>> Proposal (2008-02). I would like to know who drafted the policy in
> > order
> >>> to ask questions (off list) about the rationale for certain
> > features.
> >>> Also would like to know more about the process by which amendments
> > are
> >>> proposed and implemented. Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> MM
> >>>
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