[arin-discuss] Question about legacy IPv4 and RADB
mjoseph at google.com
Sun May 6 00:12:27 EDT 2012
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Robert E. Seastrom <rs at seastrom.com> wrote:
> John B <johnb at infinitie.net> writes:
> > That is definitely an interesting circumstance that I haven't come
> across yet.
> > Wouldn't it be pretty simple for them to get ARIN to update their poc
> > in the database for the IP space
> > so you could proceed?
> > John Brancela
> Actually, that depends on some nuances of the situation.
> If they're the same organization they've always been (incorporation /
> state registration not lapsed, continuously in business, etc) yes it's
> pretty straightforward.
> If there's been some M&A activity, getting ARIN to update the
> information is by not difficult, but getting together copies of all
> the corporate documentation they require in order to substantiate the
> claim can be a big pain, particularly when there's been more than one
> acquisition in succession.
> If this is an attempt to do something that is not quite on the
> up-and-up, getting the corporate documentation will of course be
> impossible, and generating a bogus documentation trail is probably
> some combination of conspiracy and fraud depending on how many people
> are in on it and what they do. ARIN staff is pretty good at
> determining the veracity of paper trails with which they're presented
> and figuring out when things look hinky. Under those circumstances,
> getting ARIN to update the POC will of course be impossible.
Agree with everything RS said, but also worth noting that the discussion of
"updating the POC" is somewhat inaccurate. Updating a POC is less
important (from a resource verification perspective) than is updating the
ORG itself. After all, the POC merely represents who can interact with
ARIN (or as a designated point-of-contact for the Internet) for a given
resource. The ORG represents the entity who is actually issued the
resource and authorized to use it.
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