[arin-discuss] Suggestion 2010.1 -- Initial Fee Waiver for IPv6 assignments to LRSA signatories
Lee Howard
spiffnolee at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 5 05:53:10 EST 2010
Owen DeLong said:
> OK, now that we have all of that clear, the suggestion in
> question is for entities which have a legacy assignment
> (end-users) and sign the LRSA, the initial fee ($1250 for
> a /48, most likely) is waived. They would continue paying
> $100/year for their IPv4 legacy and IPv6 RSA resources
> as well as any ASN resources or other RSA resources they
> may also have.
Is there a distinction between end-users and ISPs in legacy
address assignments/allocations?
I don't know how it might affect opinion on this suggestion,
but I would like to point out that the Legacy Registration
Services Agreement (LRSA), which defines certain rights for
signers, will not be available after June 30, 2010.
https://www.arin.net/announcements/2010/20100115.html
If this suggestion were adopted, there would be a limited time
for organizations to sign the LRSA, though early signers would
still be eligible.
> In contrast, there has, for several years, been a fee reduction
> in place for IPv6 for ISP/LIR organizations which this year is
> down to a 50% reduction and IIRC drops to 25% next year.
Yes, you're right: https://www.arin.net/fees/fee_schedule.html#waivers
Note that organizations issued (or transferred) both IPv4 and IPv6
allocations by
ARIN under a single Org ID pay the larger of the
two annual renewal
fees.
Lee
On Feb 4, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Aaron Wendel wrote:
Okay, so if I have a legacy assignment and sign an LRSA, then get more IPs and sign an RSA for those I still only pay the $100 a year for everything or do I pay ARIN’s regular fees since I now have an RSA for my new allocation?
>
>
>
>From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong
>Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:03 PM
>To: Scott Leibrand
>Cc: arin-discuss at arin.net
>Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Suggestion 2010.1 -- Initial Fee Waiver for IPv6 assignments to LRSA signatories
>
>However, the ongoing maintenance fees for assignments are $100/year which you are already
>paying if you signed the LRSA, so, there is actually no additional ongoing cost, either.
>
>Owen
>
>On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Scott Leibrand wrote:
>
>
>
>If you have a legacy allocation and need additional number resources from ARIN, you have to sign a regular RSA to get them. The LRSA only covers the legacy resources themselves. So the IPv6 resources this fee waiver suggestion would apply to would be covered by the RSA. It would not be an ongoing distinction, though, as it would only waive the initial assignment fee, not ongoing maintenance fees.
>
>-Scott
>
>On 2/4/2010 11:09 AM, Aaron Wendel wrote:
>I have a question on this.
>
>If I have a legacy allocation do I not have to sign a regular RSA to get resources from ARIN? Do we have 2 classes of IP holders getting services here?
>
>Aaron
>
>
>From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Keith W. Hare
>Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 1:07 PM
>To: arin-discuss at arin.net
>Subject: Re: [arin-discuss] Suggestion 2010.1 -- Initial Fee Waiver for IPv6 assignments to LRSA signatories
>
>I support Owen’s suggestion that IPv6 initial assignment fees be waived for legacy resource holders who have signed the LRSA.
>
>Keith Hare
>192.84.218.0/24
>
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>
>Keith W. Hare JCC Consulting, Inc.
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>From: arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-discuss-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong
>Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 11:39 PM
>To: arin-discuss at arin.net
>Subject: [arin-discuss] Suggestion 2010.1 -- Initial Fee Waiver for IPv6 assignments to LRSA signatories
>
>I have submitted a formal suggestion to the ACSP recommending that the BoT waive initial
>assignment fees for IPv6 when the applicant is a legacy resource holder that has signed
>the LRSA.
>
>I believe this helps remove most of the barriers to entry for legacy IPv4 holders to migrate
>to IPv6 and is in the best interests of the community.
>
>ARIN has informed me that the matter will be placed on the Board's finance committee
>agenda. As such, I would like to encourage members here who have an opinion on the
>matter to let the board know what you think, ideally by posting a message to this list.
>
>
>Owen
>
>
>Below is the message I received from ARIN and the original suggestion I submitted:
>
>Owen,
>
>
>This is in response to your suggestion noted below and assigned number 2010.1.
>
>Thank you for your suggestion relating to charging no initial fee related to request for an initial IPv6 allocation and/or assignments for Legacy Holders that have signed the ARIN Legacy Registration Service Agreement. As this relates to fees, this will be added to the ARIN Board's Finance Committee agenda for 2010.
>
>Some other information related to this suggestion is that the current IPv6 waiver for allocations for initial requests and renewals in 2010 is a 50% fee waiver. For requests in 2011, the allocation fees will be 25% waived.
>In terms of assignments, the initial fee is not waived. Clients requesting assignment resources pay an initial fee per request of address space and thereafter pay annual allocation or maintenance fees related to the Organizational ID as a whole. Initial fees are to cover the effort related to reviewing and analyzing the request, whereas maintenance fees are designed to cover the overhead of maintaining objects in the database.
>
>Recent changes were implemented in mid 2009 for organizations with both ARIN-issued and Legacy Resources. They are assessed an Annual Fee based on the ARIN-issued resources and not charged the Legacy resource maintenance fee.
>
>ARIN is reliant on its active membership to help it better serve the community and we want to commend you for your continuing activism and service.
>
>Regards,
>
>Member Services
>American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
>*********************************************
>
>2010.1
>01-18-2010 16:58:30
>
>ARIN should offer legacy holders that sign the LRSA the opportunity to receive an appropriate IPv6 allocation or assignment for no initial fee. The applicable standard renewal fees would apply thereafter.
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