What do you want? - Cost justification

[Kim Hubbard]

>
We haven't put out the final budget yet because we're waiting on
pricing for legal insurance.  I can't even estimate how much that will 
cost so we're waiting until we have actual prices.

Kim


> I haven't been following the arin discussion real closly as time isn't on
> myside at this point, I am how ever concerned about what happens.  My
> actaul concern is where is the 2 million  $$ cost justification.  I am not
> be any means saying thats too much, I just can't see where it is all going.
>  If you could point me towards some sort of costs justification data I
> would greatly appricaite it.
> 
> David
> 
> ----------
> > From: Kim Hubbard <kimh at INTERNIC.NET>
> > To: naipr at arin.net
> > Subject: What do you want?
> > Date: Thursday, May 01, 1997 1:25 PM
> > 
> > 
> > From the beginning several of you have questioned the estimated budget
> > of approximately two million (not three million) dollars stating that
> > ARIN could be run with a staff of three or four.  For those who believe
> > this you need to decide if this is what you really want.  Maybe we
> > could run ARIN with this minimal staff, if you don't care about quality
> > of service.
> > 
> > You have to decide how important, as an ISP, IP numbers are to you.  Is
> > it okay with you to have your allocations take weeks, or months, since
> > we won't have the staff to handle all of the requests in a timely manner?
> > 
> > Is it acceptable to hire mediocre engineering staff?  Or to understaff
> > the engineering group to save you a couple of dollars?  
> > 
> > Should we ignore the allocation policies to help conserve address and
> > routing table space because they only mean more staff are required to
> > review requests?
> > 
> > Yes, we could automate address assignments and just give every requester
> > what they ask for, is this what you want?
> > 
> > Currently, the IP group has a staff of five employees reviewing IP
> > requests, allocating addresses and ASNs, registering in-addr information,
> > SWIPs and helpdesk and we are understaffed.  This number does not
> > include any engineering, admin or accounting support.
> > 
> > The proposed ARIN staff calls for an engineering staff of four.  Maybe
> > we'll be lucky and find one person who's an expert network engineer,
> > programmer, dba, sys admin, webmaster, etc. and doesn't mind working or
> > being on call 24 x 7.  If you know of such as person, great send him/her
> > over.  Of course, they'll have to be willing to work for less than the
> > going rate because some of you also don't believe that ARIN should
> > be paying staff the same amount as other Internet-related companies pay.
> > 
> > ARIN is your company, not mine.  If its service doesn't meet your
> > needs it will effect your business, your livelihood.  Isn't it better
> > to do it right? 
> > 
> > And finally, for those of you who think that "ARIN" is out to make
> > a financial "killing" and that "ARIN" is going to increase its fees
> > and stick it to the ISPs, please remember, YOU ARE ARIN!  Arin will
> > be doing whatever its members (you, the ISPs) tell it to.  
> > 
> > 
> > Kim Hubbard
>