[Iana-transition] lanic update, ideas for new oversight board (MONC)

Thu Oct 30 05:35:27 EDT 2014

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Richard Hill <rhill at hill-a.ch> wrote:

>  IETF is not, at present, an incorporated entity.
>

By IETF i meant its trust

Cheers!

>
> Best,
> Richard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Seun Ojedeji [mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* jeudi, 30. octobre 2014 10:25
> *To:* Richard Hill
> *Cc:* Andrew Dul; iana-transition
> *Subject:* Re: [Iana-transition] lanic update, ideas for new oversight
> board (MONC)
>
>  On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Richard Hill <rhill at hill-a.ch> wrote:
>
>>  Seun,
>>
>> Re footnote [1], there is at present an MoU between ITU and the NRO, see
>>
>>   http://archive.icann.org/en/aso/aso-mou-29oct04.htm
>>
>> I presume that you are not suggesting that this MoU be abrogated,
>>
>
> I am definitely not suggesting that......
>
>
>>  rather you are suggesting that nothing more is needed.
>>
>
> I am rather suggesting that the MOU be reviewed in a manner that allows
> the numbers community have ultimate decision when there is need to exercise
> it. The area that especially needs review includes the GPDP (item 5).
>
>
>
>>
>> If that is correct, then I don't agree.  As already indicated, I think
>> that more is needed.  But I do agree that it could be done by the NRO (but
>> that would imply that NRO would have to be incorproated as a legal entity).
>>
>
> Well the council proposed also has to be incorporated and that is why i
> indicated that the NRO-EC formation/composition may need to change. However
> i don't think all these will be necessarily if there is a single
> incorporated entity that empowers the relevant communities (names, numbers,
> and protocol) and i just think the IETF may be in the best position for
> this.[1]
>
> Regards
> 1. I have been saying this for some time and yet to hear any opposition to
> this.
>
>
>>
>> Best,
>> Richard
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* Seun Ojedeji [mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* mercredi, 29. octobre 2014 20:56
>> *To:* Richard Hill
>> *Cc:* Andrew Dul; iana-transition
>> *Subject:* Re: [Iana-transition] lanic update, ideas for new oversight
>> board (MONC)
>>
>>  On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Richard Hill <rhill at hill-a.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> NTIA awards the IANA contract, that is, it decides who performs the IANA
>>> function, and how.
>>>
>>> Presumably the MONC would do that (for the IP address part of the IANA
>>> function) instead of NTIA.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for echoing that fact. We then need to determine whether its worth
>> forming a council that will only be awarding a periodic contract. IMO if
>> this community decide that a contracting regime is what is desired[1] then
>> that role can be given to the NRO while the composition of NRO-EC is
>> reviewed.
>>
>>>
>>> But you are right to ask for a more detailed explanation: the devil is
>>> in the details.
>>>
>>
>> ;)
>>
>> Cheers!
>> 1. Which i don't necessarily think is necessary
>>
>>>
>>> Best Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> On October 29, 2014 6:30:17 PM CET, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Maybe it's helpful to know what oversight activities is performed by
>>>> NTIA at it relates to numbers(if any). That would perhaps help understand
>>>> the scope of work of the MONC. Then the other question of what will the
>>>> role of NRO look like and what's the formation of the MONC going to look
>>>> like.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>
>>>> sent from Google nexus 4
>>>> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>>>> On 29 Oct 2014 16:40, "Andrew Dul" <andrew.dul at quark.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello
>>>>>
>>>>> I am currently at the LACNIC meeting and we just had the discussion of
>>>>> ideas & proposals surrounding the IANA transition.  A new set of ideas has
>>>>> been presented here for discussion in this region.  The idea of a new
>>>>> oversight board (MONC) to perform the NTIA oversight function.
>>>>>
>>>>> I bring it up here so that you can be aware of it and so that we can
>>>>> discuss the idea in our region as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Below are links to the slides and agenda which are in spanish.
>>>>>
>>>>> A few personal notes from the presentation and the discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Proposal for a Multistakeholder Oversight Numbers Council (MONC)
>>>>>
>>>>> Permanent body that would support the NRO, would meet once per year to
>>>>> supervise the development & oversight of IANA functions, similar to the
>>>>> sitting fiscal committee of lacnic.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was suggested that oversight role should be done by this body for
>>>>> the numbers portion of the IANA functions.  Members of the Council would
>>>>> have to be selected or appointed to fulfill this role.  How that would
>>>>> happen is not part of this initial idea draft.
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing that was noted here is that this is a new idea and that it
>>>>> should be given time for discussion to see if it has merits.  There aren't
>>>>> a lot of details on the structure here at this time, but they should come
>>>>> with time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.lacnic.net/en/web/eventos/lacnic22-agenda-detallada
>>>>>
>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/content_link/
>>>>> HBIR5OaMLUQIPZlmgHtCeLpQG4WO9cUjB83vUDPqMtNPuhGbNSNlJ2aVvUpiNdQM?dl=1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> The key to understanding is humility - my view !
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