<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Richard Hill <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch" target="_blank">rhill@hill-a.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">IETF
is not, at present, an incorporated entity. </font></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>By IETF i meant its trust<br><br></div><div>Cheers! <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Best,</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Richard</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Tahoma"><span class="">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Seun Ojedeji
[mailto:<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>]<br></span><div><div class="h5"><b>Sent:</b> jeudi, 30. octobre 2014
10:25<br><b>To:</b> Richard Hill<br><b>Cc:</b> Andrew Dul;
iana-transition<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Iana-transition] lanic update, ideas
for new oversight board (MONC)<br><br></div></div></font></div><div><div class="h5">
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Richard Hill <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch" target="_blank">rhill@hill-a.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Seun,</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Re footnote [1], there is at
present an MoU between ITU and the NRO, see </font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"> <a href="http://archive.icann.org/en/aso/aso-mou-29oct04.htm" target="_blank">http://archive.icann.org/en/aso/aso-mou-29oct04.htm</a> </font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">I presume that you are not
suggesting that this MoU be abrogated,</font></span></div></div></blockquote>
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<div>I am definitely not suggesting that......<br> <br></div>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">rather you are suggesting that
nothing more is needed.</font></span></div></div></blockquote>
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<div>I am rather suggesting that the MOU be reviewed in a manner that allows
the numbers community have ultimate decision when there is need to exercise
it. The area that especially needs review includes the GPDP (item
5).<br></div>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">If that is correct, then I don't
agree. As already indicated, I think that more is needed. But I
do agree that it could be done by the NRO (but that would imply that NRO
would have to be incorproated as a legal
entity).</font></span></div></div></blockquote>
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<div>Well the council proposed also has to be incorporated and that is why i
indicated that the NRO-EC formation/composition may need to change. However i
don't think all these will be necessarily if there is a single incorporated
entity that empowers the relevant communities (names, numbers, and protocol)
and i just think the IETF may be in the best position for
this.[1]<br><br></div>
<div>Regards<br></div>
<div>1. I have been saying this for some time and yet to hear any opposition
to this.<br></div>
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Best,</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Richard</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font face="Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Seun Ojedeji [mailto:<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>]<br><b>Sent:</b> mercredi, 29.
octobre 2014 20:56<br><b>To:</b> Richard Hill<br><b>Cc:</b> Andrew Dul;
iana-transition<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Iana-transition] lanic update,
ideas for new oversight board (MONC)<br><br></font></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Richard Hill <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rhill@hill-a.ch" target="_blank">rhill@hill-a.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
<div>NTIA awards the IANA contract, that is, it decides who performs the
IANA function, and how. <br><br>Presumably the MONC would do that (for
the IP address part of the IANA function) instead of
NTIA.<br></div></blockquote>
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<div>Thanks for echoing that fact. We then need to determine whether its
worth forming a council that will only be awarding a periodic contract.
IMO if this community decide that a contracting regime is what is
desired[1] then that role can be given to the NRO while the composition of
NRO-EC is reviewed.<br></div>
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<div><br>But you are right to ask for a more detailed explanation: the
devil is in the details. <br></div></blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>;) <br><br></div>
<div>Cheers!<br></div>
<div>1. Which i don't necessarily think is necessary<br></div>
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<div><br>Best Richard
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<div class="gmail_quote">On October 29, 2014 6:30:17 PM CET, Seun Ojedeji
<<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
<p dir="ltr">Maybe it's helpful to know what oversight activities is
performed by NTIA at it relates to numbers(if any). That would perhaps
help understand the scope of work of the MONC. Then the other question
of what will the role of NRO look like and what's the formation of the
MONC going to look like.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Cheers!</p>
<p dir="ltr">sent from Google nexus 4<br>kindly excuse brevity and
typos.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 29 Oct 2014 16:40, "Andrew Dul" <<a href="mailto:andrew.dul@quark.net" target="_blank">andrew.dul@quark.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hello<br><br>I am currently at the LACNIC meeting
and we just had the discussion of ideas & proposals surrounding
the IANA transition. A new set of ideas has been presented
here for discussion in this region. The idea of a new
oversight board (MONC) to perform the NTIA oversight
function.<br><br>I bring it up here so that you can be aware of it
and so that we can discuss the idea in our region as
well.<br><br>Below are links to the slides and agenda which are in
spanish.<br><br>A few personal notes from the presentation and the
discussion.<br><br>Proposal for a Multistakeholder Oversight Numbers
Council (MONC)<br><br>Permanent body that would support the NRO,
would meet once per year to supervise the development &
oversight of IANA functions, similar to the sitting fiscal committee
of lacnic.<br><br>It was suggested that oversight role should be
done by this body for the numbers portion of the IANA
functions. Members of the Council would have to be selected or
appointed to fulfill this role. How that would happen is not
part of this initial idea draft.<br><br>One thing that was noted
here is that this is a new idea and that it should be given time for
discussion to see if it has merits. There aren't a lot of
details on the structure here at this time, but they should come
with time.<br><br>Andrew<br><br><br><a href="http://www.lacnic.net/en/web/eventos/lacnic22-agenda-detallada" target="_blank">http://www.lacnic.net/en/web/<u></u>eventos/lacnic22-agenda-<u></u>detallada</a><br><br><a href="https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/content_link/HBIR5OaMLUQIPZlmgHtCeLpQG4WO9cUjB83vUDPqMtNPuhGbNSNlJ2aVvUpiNdQM?dl=1" target="_blank">https://dl.dropboxusercontent.<u></u>com/content_link/<u></u>HBIR5OaMLUQIPZlmgHtCeLpQG4WO9c<u></u>UjB83vUDPqMtNPuhGbNSNlJ2aVvUpi<u></u>NdQM?dl=1</a><br><br><br><br><br><br>______________________________<u></u>_________________<br>Iana-transition
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