[arin-tech-discuss] Stale / Invalid objects in ARIN IRR
Andrew Dul
andrew.dul at quark.net
Mon Dec 16 13:17:37 EST 2019
One other thing to note is that ARIN is currently doing the work to
integrate "the whois database" to create a new IRR that will only
contain authenticated data. There was an update on the progress of this
project at the last ARIN meeting. The slides can be found here.
https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_44/PDF/PPM/jimmerson_irr_rpki.pdf
My understanding of the plan is that the old/current IRR will be renamed
much in the same way RIPE created the RIPE-NOAUTH database.
Andrew
On 12/16/2019 9:58 AM, Delacruz, Anthony B via arin-tech-discuss wrote:
>
> Existing customers follow thru with a ticket to NOC, other amigos send
> a note to ipadmin at centurylink.com <mailto:ipadmin at centurylink.com> if
> you need a hand with entries clean up, if you no longer have access to
> the MNT, or it was a proxy entry in the L3 IRR. Also kudos to the ARIN
> folks they are very prompt when you open up a ticket inside
> arin-online. There are some clean up efforts but there is also lots of
> risk aversion by management to do “mass” clean up and not accept some
> route causing an outage. It really comes down to contacting everyone
> that has a listing you want cleaned up. This year I’ve sent almost
> 200 notes or cases to various other IRR’s that had wrong/old entries
> on our blocks and cleared out over 1000 entries in our IRR that were
> wrong.
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> *From:* arin-tech-discuss <arin-tech-discuss-bounces at arin.net> *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Nowaczyk
> *Sent:* Monday, December 16, 2019 11:12 AM
> *To:* John Brown <john at citylinkfiber.com>
> *Cc:* arin-tech-discuss at arin.net
> *Subject:* Re: [arin-tech-discuss] Stale / Invalid objects in ARIN IRR
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>
> Hey John.
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> We’ve had great luck getting stale info removed from the various IRRs
> after our acquisitions. Old Global Crossing records were the
> trickiest, but I eventually found a contact at Level 3 that helped me
> out. I might have to go through the same issues now that Century Link
> owns all of that. I’ve had success emailing the Merit service desk
> directly for removing stale RADB routes. There isn’t any IRR-driven
> momentum for anyone to clean up their own databases at this time.
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>
> I heard Alexander Azimov speak about BGP Route Security at NANOG 76
> earlier this year. He had me convinced
> that draft-azimov-sidrops-aspa-verification[1] would solve most if not
> all of the current issues around this topic and could make the IRRs
> unnecessary.
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> Best,
>
> Tim Nowaczyk
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> [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-verification-03
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> On Dec 14, 2019, at 2:57 PM, John Brown <john at citylinkfiber.com
> <mailto:john at citylinkfiber.com>> wrote:
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> Hi John, Happy Saturday.
> I've sent in a ticket on some specific objects, and will submit more
> shortly. Thank you for that advice / help
>
> I guess I'm looking at how we get the various IRR's clean up. Some
> of the data is so stale that the originating entities don't even exist
> anymore,
> or they have been merged / purchased by others and nobody has
> clean up the data.
> Contact information in the IRR is either a) invalid / bounces or b)
> blackhole and no response.
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> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 12:16 PM John Sweeting <jsweeting at arin.net
> <mailto:jsweeting at arin.net>> wrote:
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>
> Hi John
>
> If you have stale or invalid objects you can open an Ask ARIN
> ticket it call the ARIN help desk and request assistance
> removing them.
>
> Thanks
> John S
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>
> On Dec 14, 2019, at 12:36 AM, John Brown
> <john at citylinkfiber.com <mailto:john at citylinkfiber.com>>
> wrote:
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> So, how is the community / ARIN dealing with stale or
> invalid IRR
> objects contained within the ARIN IRR (or even other IRR's).
>
> How does one efficiently get stale or invalid objects
> removed??
>
> Thank you
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