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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">One other thing to note is that ARIN is
currently doing the work to integrate "the whois database" to
create a new IRR that will only contain authenticated data. There
was an update on the progress of this project at the last ARIN
meeting. The slides can be found here.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_44/PDF/PPM/jimmerson_irr_rpki.pdf">https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN_44/PDF/PPM/jimmerson_irr_rpki.pdf</a></div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">My understanding of the plan is that
the old/current IRR will be renamed much in the same way RIPE
created the RIPE-NOAUTH database.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/16/2019 9:58 AM, Delacruz,
Anthony B via arin-tech-discuss wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Existing customers follow thru with a
ticket to NOC, other amigos send a note to
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if you need a hand with entries clean up, if you no longer
have access to the MNT, or it was a proxy entry in the L3 IRR.
Also kudos to the ARIN folks they are very prompt when you
open up a ticket inside arin-online. There are some clean up
efforts but there is also lots of risk aversion by management
to do “mass” clean up and not accept some route causing an
outage. It really comes down to contacting everyone that has a
listing you want cleaned up. This year I’ve sent almost 200
notes or cases to various other IRR’s that had wrong/old
entries on our blocks and cleared out over 1000 entries in our
IRR that were wrong.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Nowaczyk<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 16, 2019 11:12 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Brown <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:john@citylinkfiber.com"><john@citylinkfiber.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:arin-tech-discuss@arin.net">arin-tech-discuss@arin.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-tech-discuss] Stale / Invalid
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<p class="MsoNormal">We’ve had great luck getting stale info
removed from the various IRRs after our acquisitions. Old
Global Crossing records were the trickiest, but I eventually
found a contact at Level 3 that helped me out. I might have
to go through the same issues now that Century Link owns all
of that. I’ve had success emailing the Merit service desk
directly for removing stale RADB routes. There isn’t any
IRR-driven momentum for anyone to clean up their own
databases at this time.<o:p></o:p></p>
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BGP Route Security at NANOG 76 earlier this year. He had
me convinced
that draft-azimov-sidrops-aspa-verification[1] would solve
most if not all of the current issues around this topic
and could make the IRRs unnecessary.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi John, Happy Saturday.<br>
I've sent in a ticket on some specific objects,
and will submit more<br>
shortly. Thank you for that advice / help<br>
<br>
I guess I'm looking at how we get the various
IRR's clean up. Some<br>
of the data is so stale that the originating
entities don't even exist<br>
anymore,<br>
or they have been merged / purchased by others and
nobody has clean up the data.<br>
Contact information in the IRR is either a)
invalid / bounces or b)<br>
blackhole and no response.<br>
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On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 12:16 PM John Sweeting
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Hi John<br>
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If you have stale or invalid objects you can
open an Ask ARIN ticket it call the ARIN help
desk and request assistance removing them.<br>
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Thanks<br>
John S<br>
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So, how is the community / ARIN dealing with
stale or invalid IRR<br>
objects contained within the ARIN IRR (or even
other IRR's).<br>
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How does one efficiently get stale or invalid
objects removed??<br>
<br>
Thank you<br>
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