[arin-tech-discuss] Stale / Invalid objects in ARIN IRR

[Delacruz, Anthony B]

Existing customers follow thru with a ticket to NOC, other amigos send a note to ipadmin at centurylink.com<mailto:ipadmin at centurylink.com> if you need a hand with entries clean up, if you no longer have access to the MNT, or it was a proxy entry in the L3 IRR. Also kudos to the ARIN folks they are very prompt when you open up a ticket inside arin-online. There are some clean up efforts but there is also lots of risk aversion by management to do “mass” clean up and not accept some route causing an outage. It really comes down to contacting everyone that has a listing you want cleaned up.  This year I’ve sent almost 200 notes or cases to various other IRR’s that had wrong/old entries on our blocks and cleared out over 1000 entries in our IRR that were wrong.

From: arin-tech-discuss <arin-tech-discuss-bounces at arin.net> On Behalf Of Tim Nowaczyk
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Subject: Re: [arin-tech-discuss] Stale / Invalid objects in ARIN IRR

Hey John.

We’ve had great luck getting stale info removed from the various IRRs after our acquisitions. Old Global Crossing records were the trickiest, but I eventually found a contact at Level 3 that helped me out. I might have to go through the same issues now that Century Link owns all of that. I’ve had success emailing the Merit service desk directly for removing stale RADB routes. There isn’t any IRR-driven momentum for anyone to clean up their own databases at this time.

I heard Alexander Azimov speak about BGP Route Security at NANOG 76 earlier this year. He had me convinced that draft-azimov-sidrops-aspa-verification[1] would solve most if not all of the current issues around this topic and could make the IRRs unnecessary.

Best,
Tim Nowaczyk

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On Dec 14, 2019, at 2:57 PM, John Brown <john at citylinkfiber.com<mailto:john at citylinkfiber.com>> wrote:

Hi John,  Happy Saturday.
I've sent in a ticket on some specific objects, and will submit more
shortly.  Thank you for that advice / help

I guess I'm looking at how we get the various IRR's clean up.   Some
of the data is so stale that the originating entities don't even exist
anymore,
or they have been merged / purchased by others and nobody has clean up the data.
Contact information in the IRR is either a) invalid / bounces or b)
blackhole and no response.


On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 12:16 PM John Sweeting <jsweeting at arin.net<mailto:jsweeting at arin.net>> wrote:


Hi John

If you have stale or invalid objects you can open an Ask ARIN ticket it call the ARIN help desk and request assistance removing them.

Thanks
John S

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On Dec 14, 2019, at 12:36 AM, John Brown <john at citylinkfiber.com<mailto:john at citylinkfiber.com>> wrote:

So, how is the community / ARIN dealing with stale or invalid IRR
objects contained within the ARIN IRR (or even other IRR's).

How does one efficiently get stale or invalid objects removed??

Thank you
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