[arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2025-1: Clarify ISP and LIR Definitions and References to Address Ambiguity in NRPM Text

[William Herrin]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 1:13 PM David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:
> I think you are referring to National Internet Registries (NIRs),
> which are not called Local Internet Registries (LIRs) and are
> not confused with LIRs.

Hi David,

Either way the point remains: sub-registries in the other regions are
not inherently expected to be the operators of the infrastructure
services with which those IP addresses are used. ARIN has some gray
area on the subject, but the rule to which exceptions apply is that
your IP addresses are either coming from your network provider or
directly from ARIN, not a different party altogether. ARIN is not a
LIR and the "registry" terminology for your network provider is a poor
fit. If anyone hates the "ISP" terminology, I respectfully ask them to
suggest a better phrase, not a worse one.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


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