[arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2025-1: Clarify ISP and LIR Definitions and References to Address Ambiguity in NRPM Text

[David Farmer]

On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 1:15 PM William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 9:21 AM Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML
> <arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:
> > Exactly what Jay said. David’s definitions are livable, but why not join
> > the rest of the world in using globally accepted terminology rather than
> > contorting the definition of ISP because we can.
>
> Hi Owen,
>
> Because using the same term as the rest of the world might lead people
> to think it means the same thing here that it does there. Which it
> doesn't. But you already knew that.
>
> For anyone who doesn't know what I'm digging at: ARIN doesn't delegate
> address management to countries and states as happens in other
> regions. Those regions call country-level registries "local," as in
> Local Internet Registry (LIR). We _could_ do that if we changed the
> policies that way, but it would be a major change: not  just picking
> preferred terminology.
>

I think you are referring to National Internet Registries (NIRs), which are
not called Local Internet Registries (LIRs) and are not confused with LIRs.


> Instead, ARIN lets organizations which provide network infrastructure
> to their customers manage the IP addresses used with that
> infrastructure. You know: providers of Internet service, sometimes
> called ISPs.
>
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
>
>
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