[arin-ppml] ARIN-2025-4: Resource Issuance to Natural Persons -- Request for Feedback

[Richard Laager]

 From what I understand, one major issue here is that allowing 
individuals to obtain resources directly from ARIN makes ARIN a B2C 
(business to consumer) business, rather than a purely B2B (business to 
business) business. This may (will?) trigger all sorts of additional 
legal complexity for ARIN, which means more lawyers, which means more cost.

Natural persons with ARIN resources feels like a pretty corner case 
thing to me. I doubt that this additional legal/regulatory complexity is 
worth the benefit. That said, I don't feel particularly strongly nor do 
I have a good handle on how many people would benefit vs what the actual 
costs are. That's what we have the ARIN Board for.

On 2025-07-11 14:22, hostmaster at uneedus.com wrote:
> You are assuming that:
>
> 1) Individuals have no right to obtain resources; or
>
> 2) That It is in fact possible in all possible States or Nations to 
> REGISTER a sole proprietor.
>
> As a resident of the many US States that DOES NOT "Register" 
> businesses, who operate under their legal name, and in fact has 
> provided NO WAY under its laws to do so, I think your suggestion to 
> "Please abandon this policy" is wrong.
>
> Fictitious Name registrations in my state are NOT permitted of those 
> attempting to register their actual name as a fictitious name. The 
> entity registering a "Fictitious name" MUST be different than the 
> fictitious name itself, and in fact the State registration system 
> enforces this.
>
> One might obtain a "Business Tax Receipt", formally called a 
> "Occupational License", but those that are simply using resources for 
> their own personal use such as for internet access are not "doing 
> business" and are not required to do so. Also, "doing business" 
> triggers things like zoning for the proposed business, which is not 
> required if one simply wanted to obtain resources from ARIN.
>
> As pointed out, most RIR's, including even the predecessor of ARIN 
> allowed individuals to register for resources, and I know that there 
> are still some living persons today that still hold such resources 
> issued prior to ARIN.
>
> I think it is wrong tor ARIN to insist on Corporations or LLCs as a 
> condition to receive resources.  Especially if the person in fact is 
> personally using the resources, rather than using them in a business.
>
> Albert Erdmann
> Network Administrator
> Paradise On Line Inc.
>
> Thus, if this process is abandoned, you will force those in my State to
>
> On Fri, 11 Jul 2025, Noah wrote:
>
>> Please abandon this policy.
>>
>> Individuals should register a legally recognized sole proprietor or 
>> SME and
>> get INR through the process that has stood a taste of time.
>>
>> Let us resist the need to reduce Regional Internet Registries to this 
>> level
>> of dealing with individuals.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ./noah
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2025, 2:27 am Elizabeth Goodson,
>> <elizabeth.goodson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>       Hello PPML,
>>       I'm shepherding this policy along with Doug Camin. We're seeking
>>       direction from the community as to how the AC should proceed
>>       with this policy. There was robust conversation on PPML in late
>>       May and early June, which tapered off quickly after the ARIN
>>       Staff and Legal analysis was published.
>>
>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2025_4/#staff-and-legal-revi 
>>
>> ew-3-june-2025
>>
>> Should we
>> - abandon this policy,
>> - accept this policy as written, or
>> - continue to revise this policy?
>>
>> We appreciate your feedback.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Liz Goodson
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Richard
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