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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">From what I understand, one major issue
here is that allowing individuals to obtain resources directly
from ARIN makes ARIN a B2C (business to consumer) business, rather
than a purely B2B (business to business) business. This may
(will?) trigger all sorts of additional legal complexity for ARIN,
which means more lawyers, which means more cost.</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Natural persons with ARIN resources
feels like a pretty corner case thing to me. I doubt that this
additional legal/regulatory complexity is worth the benefit. That
said, I don't feel particularly strongly nor do I have a good
handle on how many people would benefit vs what the actual costs
are. That's what we have the ARIN Board for.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2025-07-11 14:22,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:hostmaster@uneedus.com">hostmaster@uneedus.com</a> wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:alpine.LRH.2.21.2507111452060.372@bigone.uneedus.com">You
are assuming that:
<br>
<br>
1) Individuals have no right to obtain resources; or
<br>
<br>
2) That It is in fact possible in all possible States or Nations
to REGISTER a sole proprietor.
<br>
<br>
As a resident of the many US States that DOES NOT "Register"
businesses, who operate under their legal name, and in fact has
provided NO WAY under its laws to do so, I think your suggestion
to "Please abandon this policy" is wrong.
<br>
<br>
Fictitious Name registrations in my state are NOT permitted of
those attempting to register their actual name as a fictitious
name. The entity registering a "Fictitious name" MUST be different
than the fictitious name itself, and in fact the State
registration system enforces this.
<br>
<br>
One might obtain a "Business Tax Receipt", formally called a
"Occupational License", but those that are simply using resources
for their own personal use such as for internet access are not
"doing business" and are not required to do so. Also, "doing
business" triggers things like zoning for the proposed business,
which is not required if one simply wanted to obtain resources
from ARIN.
<br>
<br>
As pointed out, most RIR's, including even the predecessor of ARIN
allowed individuals to register for resources, and I know that
there are still some living persons today that still hold such
resources issued prior to ARIN.
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<br>
I think it is wrong tor ARIN to insist on Corporations or LLCs as
a condition to receive resources. Especially if the person in
fact is personally using the resources, rather than using them in
a business.
<br>
<br>
Albert Erdmann
<br>
Network Administrator
<br>
Paradise On Line Inc.
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Thus, if this process is abandoned, you will force those in my
State to
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On Fri, 11 Jul 2025, Noah wrote:
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<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Please abandon this policy.
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<br>
Individuals should register a legally recognized sole proprietor
or SME and
<br>
get INR through the process that has stood a taste of time.
<br>
<br>
Let us resist the need to reduce Regional Internet Registries to
this level
<br>
of dealing with individuals.
<br>
<br>
Cheers,
<br>
./noah
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On Fri, 11 Jul 2025, 2:27 am Elizabeth Goodson,
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:elizabeth.goodson@gmail.com"><elizabeth.goodson@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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Hello PPML,
<br>
I'm shepherding this policy along with Doug Camin. We're
seeking
<br>
direction from the community as to how the AC should
proceed
<br>
with this policy. There was robust conversation on PPML in
late
<br>
May and early June, which tapered off quickly after the
ARIN
<br>
Staff and Legal analysis was published.
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<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2025_4/#staff-and-legal-revi">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2025_4/#staff-and-legal-revi</a>
<br>
ew-3-june-2025
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Should we
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- abandon this policy,
<br>
- accept this policy as written, or
<br>
- continue to revise this policy?
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<br>
We appreciate your feedback.
<br>
<br>
Thanks,
<br>
Liz Goodson
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