[arin-ppml] AC structure (was AC candidates)

[John Curran]

On Aug 16, 2024, at 11:07 AM, Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com> wrote:

All interested parties must be must have access to a process which is open and transparent and ensures fair representation of all constituencies within the region.

There is nothing that precludes or constrains an RIR from having involvement of their governing board, an advisory council, or any other body in those processes (and in fact, it recognizes that some policies will explicitly have another body - the Address Council) so long as it does not adversely impact the open/transoparent/accessible nature of the process.

Here's where we differ. You may consider "be accessible to all interested parties" as simply giving community voice to participate, if I understand it correctly, but I consider it having community as decision makers of the process, by having the pen on their hands and by being able to participate on the decision without having to be chosen by membership only.

Fernando -

The community are major decision makers in the process - per the ARIN PDP, no draft policy can make it to recommended draft policy without documented support of community as demonstrated by a show of support at a public policy meeting.

The ARIN AC listens to the community and edits draft policies based on the discussion precisely to achieve this outcome.  (If somehow the ARIN AC were to send a policy to the ARIN Board missing clearly documented support of the community, it would not meet the PDP requirements for advancement and would inevitably be rejected.)

As a result, to assert that the community does not participate in the decision making is rather disingenuous, as per the PDP that you are objecting to, the community is both the primary and an essential decision making body in a policy being recommended for adoption.  (Note again that participation in the ARIN public policy meeting – and thus the ability to participate in the community polls of support for draft policies – is open to the entire community not just ARIN members.)

When I say unbalanced in ARIN current structure is because the ultimate decisions are all with the membership represented by the Board and by the AC. Not even the pen in the authors hand after the proposal is accepted as a draft is allowed. I personally don't consider it fully accessible and balanced.

Your view is noted, but given the above I must disagree with your assessment – the ARIN policy development process is accessible to all, but indeed it does appear that some elements of it are different than what you might be accustomed to.

Thanks,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers


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