[arin-ppml] Policy Experience Report Working Group Leasing Question

[Ron Grant]

Does ARIN actually have policies that allow them to reclaim space for 
any reason other than non-payment of fees?

Hmmm, apparently they do, in section 12 of the NRPM. It looks pretty 
straightforward, that is to say it would be extremely difficult to 
wiggle around it.

That being the case, I would vote +1 for an amendment of the Waitlist 
agreement to incude a restriction on leasing during the same 60 months 
that the transfer restriction is in place. After all, a lease is just a 
"temporary transfer".




On 2023-05-07 12:55 p.m., Michael B. Williams via ARIN-PPML wrote:
> The problem is that some genuine market participants may be unable to 
> afford the market rate, thus stifling potential market entry or 
> innovation.
>
> I am not necessarily against this idea as long as there are 
> appropriate ways to preserve market entry for new entrants without. I 
> am not necessarily saying this needs to be free; however, promoting 
> competitiveness in space should be a factor. What I'd suggest we'd see 
> is continued consolidation of IP resources. Quite frankly, if this 
> model were adopted with no waitlist, it would not be surprising if a 
> venture capital fund came in and just started buying IP space to 
> reduce supply and control the price.
>
> If that's what we want as a community, then so be it. *My 
> recommendation is to eliminate IP leasing or transfer entirely for any 
> space obtained from the waitlist.* If customers want a /24 or larger, 
> they go to ARIN, get their own space, and go through the appropriate 
> justification process. The ISP can then announce that IP space on 
> their behalf.
>
> If a member is not using their IP space for public routing for a 
> period of time that ARIN should reclaim space in accordance with 
> standard policies.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 3:38 PM Michel Py via ARIN-PPML 
> <arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:
>
>     > William Herrin wrote :
>     > We could also just eliminate the waitlist. That's my preferred
>     solution. When addresses become available for allocation and
>     assignment,
>     > have ARIN contract one of the IP brokers to sell it per the
>     in-region specified transfer rules. No free addresses, no
>     incentive to cheat.
>
>     +1
>     And have it all publicly done, and reduce our fees with the money
>     obtained.
>
>     Michel
>
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Ron Grant
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