[arin-ppml] Policy Experience Report Working Group Leasing Question

Ron Grant ron+arin-ppml at balansoft.com
Sun May 7 14:38:35 EDT 2023


Oh, I totally agree with you!

I just think it'd be hard to enforce.



On 2023-05-07 11:22 a.m., Michael B. Williams via ARIN-PPML wrote:
> I disagree. While the waitlist may help companies offer 
> competitive services for their product lines, it should not be the 
> "product" itself. I.e. the offering of IP services should be coupled 
> with the actual offering of services.
>
> To point, if companies offer connectivity-related services, such as, 
> but not limited to, hosting, transit, data transit, and ISP, I don't 
> have an issue as these are in the spirit of what IP resources 
> should be obtained for.
>
> Obtaining IP resources for the purposes of immediately reselling or 
> leasing them to companies is not in the spirit of ARIN's policies.
>
> The waitlist should not be designed for companies simply to make money 
> by "waiting" in line as a spot holder than reselling the IP addresses.
>
> On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 2:16 PM Ron Grant <ron at balansoft.com> wrote:
>
>     To be honest, the whole purpose of the waitlist is for companies
>     to make money from obtaining IP space.  True, we usually assume
>     they'll be doing it the old-fashioned way, by (gasp) offering
>     services - however I think that somehow "tainting" the
>     waitlist-obtained addresses is going to cause more trouble than it
>     would prevent.
>
>
>
>     On 2023-05-05 8:58 a.m., Michael B. Williams via ARIN-PPML wrote:
>>     Are you asking if an entity were to obtain IP space from the
>>     waitlist, should they be permitted to lease it to someone else?
>>     My answer is a resounding no. That defeats the whole purpose of
>>     the waitlist. Entities should not be encouraged to hoard IP space
>>     because ARIN will subsidise the cost, allowing a for-profit
>>     entity to make money from obtaining IP space.
>>
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