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Oh, I totally agree with you!<br>
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I just think it'd be hard to enforce.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2023-05-07 11:22 a.m., Michael B.
Williams via ARIN-PPML wrote:<br>
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disagree. While the waitlist may help companies offer
competitive services for their product lines, it should not
be the "product" itself. I.e. the offering of IP services
should be coupled with the actual offering of services.</div>
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point, if companies offer connectivity-related services,
such as, but not limited to, hosting, transit, data transit,
and ISP, I don't have an issue as these are in the spirit of
what IP resources should be obtained for.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Obtaining
IP resources for the purposes of immediately reselling or
leasing them to companies is not in the spirit of ARIN's
policies.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
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waitlist should not be designed for companies simply to make
money by "waiting" in line as a spot holder than reselling
the IP addresses.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, May 7, 2023 at
2:16 PM Ron Grant <<a href="mailto:ron@balansoft.com"
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<div> To be honest, the whole purpose of the waitlist is for
companies to make money from obtaining IP space. True, we
usually assume they'll be doing it the old-fashioned way,
by (gasp) offering services - however I think that somehow
"tainting" the waitlist-obtained addresses is going to
cause more trouble than it would prevent.<br>
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<div>On 2023-05-05 8:58 a.m., Michael B. Williams via
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you asking if an entity were to obtain IP space from
the waitlist, should they be permitted to lease it
to someone else? My answer is a resounding no. That
defeats the whole purpose of the waitlist. Entities
should not be encouraged to hoard IP space because
ARIN will subsidise the cost, allowing a for-profit
entity to make money from obtaining IP space.</div>
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