[arin-ppml] Change of Use and ARIN (was: Re: AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System)

[Owen DeLong]

> On Sep 5, 2021, at 12:43 PM, Michel Py <michel at arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us> wrote:
> 
>>> Michel Py wrote:
>>> The leasing thing makes it worse, though. Instead of having the recipient be accountable
>>> for the use of these addresses, it shifts that to who leases them. It's a smoke screen.
> 
>> Owen DeLong wrote :
>> How is this different from any other LIR? It’s a provider-assigned set of
>> addresses, regardless of the financial and/or connectivity arrangement (or not)
>> between the provider of the addresses and the customer using the addresses.
> 
> The timing, and the way business and justice work in other regions.

I’m afraid I’d need more clarity than is provided above to understand your answer.

> Oh I imagine it took a lot of back and forth between everyone, but it was the right thing to do. How long did it take between the time the process was initiated and the first justice decision ?
> 
> Not being directly involved, I was under the impression that the Nortel / Microsoft thing was some kind of a catalyst to making it happen.

To the best of my recollection, Nortel wasn’t even bankrupt yet when the transfer policy work was initiated. It may well have been the first court case, but I do not recall it being a topic of discussion in any of the debates surrounding transfer policy prior to adoption.

Owen