[arin-ppml] AFRINIC And The Stability Of The Internet Number Registry System

Arnaud AMELINA amelnaud at gmail.com
Thu Sep 2 17:23:30 EDT 2021


Le jeu. 2 sept. 2021 à 20:30, Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml at arin.net>
a écrit :

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> On Sep 2, 2021, at 04:22 , Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
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> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021, 13:35 Christian Orozco, <chresgoro at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>  AfriNIC has tried to stop the internet connectivity for those millions
>> of users with complete disregard of the internet stability.
>>
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>
> See below an extract from AFRNIC CEO message on the termination of CIL
> which debunks your false claim above.
>
>
> <snip>
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>    -
>
>     In order not to disrupt Internet connectivity of the relevant users
>    especially in the current context of the COVID-19 pandemic, all affected
>    users will exceptionally be granted a grace period of 90 days to consider
>    other available options in their best interests. Consequently, the actual
>    reclamation of the relevant number resources will occur following the
>    expiry of the grace period.
>
>
> This is a very misleading (deliberately so) statement as there really
> isn’t anywhere else for most of those organizations to go and renumbering
> such massive networks in 90 days is extraordinarily impractical even if it
> were possible.
>
> The claim that those users could go directly to AFRINIC given AFRINIC’s
> refusal to recognize the validity of out-of-region utilization is patently
> absurd.
>
> This so-called grace period is nothing more than the thinnest of fig
> leaves so that AFRINIC can pretend it is doing the right thing while
> committing what is effectively a terrorist act against Cloud Innovation and
> its customers.
>
> Owen
>

You feel ease to comment this kind of  statements which you pretend to be a
justice case, and don't want to answer John's simple question.

So let me reiterate it to you :

"Is Cloud Innovation’s use of the blocks in question within the remit and
purpose for which they were originally justified?"

Can you please provide us a simple response *yes* or *no*?

> have continued in the next paragraph that Cloud Innovation is using IP
>> addresses in the US (i.e. ARIN region).
>>
>
> This is a fact and below is some of the data to backup Mr.John Curran
> valid statement.
>
>
> You’re ignoring the earlier portion of his sentence where he pointed out
> that John Curran had claimed that part of the reason ARIN didn’t approve
> Cloud Innovation’s request was that they did not believe they would be
> using the resources in the ARIN region.
>
> You have to read the whole sentence. He’s not disputing the BGP data, he’s
> affirming the fact that John made two statements which contradict each
> other.
>
> Owen
>
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