<div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le jeu. 2 sept. 2021 à 20:30, Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Sep 2, 2021, at 04:22 , Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="auto"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 2 Sep 2021, 13:35 Christian Orozco, <<a href="mailto:chresgoro@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">chresgoro@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br> AfriNIC has tried to stop the internet connectivity for those millions of users with complete disregard of the internet stability.</div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">See below an extract from AFRNIC CEO message on the termination of CIL which debunks your false claim above.</div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><snip></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><ul style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:disc;font-size:12pt;font-family:'times new roman';vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;text-align:justify;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:8pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;vertical-align:baseline"> In order not to disrupt Internet connectivity of the relevant users especially in the current context of the COVID-19 pandemic, all affected users will exceptionally be granted a grace period of 90 days to consider other available options in their best interests. Consequently, the actual reclamation of the relevant number resources will occur following the expiry of the grace period.</span></p><div><br></div></li></ul></div></div></div></div></blockquote>This is a very misleading (deliberately so) statement as there really isn’t anywhere else for most of those organizations to go and renumbering such massive networks in 90 days is extraordinarily impractical even if it were possible.</div><div><br></div><div>The claim that those users could go directly to AFRINIC given AFRINIC’s refusal to recognize the validity of out-of-region utilization is patently absurd.</div><div><br></div><div>This so-called grace period is nothing more than the thinnest of fig leaves so that AFRINIC can pretend it is doing the right thing while committing what is effectively a terrorist act against Cloud Innovation and its customers.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You feel ease to comment this kind of statements which you pretend to be a justice case, and don't want to answer John's simple question. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So let me reiterate it to you : </div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.8px">"Is Cloud Innovation’s use of the blocks in question within the remit and purpose for which they were originally justified?" </span></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Can you please provide us a simple response <b>yes</b> or <b>no</b>? </div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">have continued in the next paragraph that Cloud Innovation is using IP addresses in the US (i.e. ARIN region).</div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This is a fact and below is some of the data to backup Mr.John Curran valid statement.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>You’re ignoring the earlier portion of his sentence where he pointed out that John Curran had claimed that part of the reason ARIN didn’t approve Cloud Innovation’s request was that they did not believe they would be using the resources in the ARIN region.</div><div><br></div><div>You have to read the whole sentence. He’s not disputing the BGP data, he’s affirming the fact that John made two statements which contradict each other.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br></div><br></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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