[arin-ppml] Open Petition for ARIN-2020-2

[Alyssa Moore]

Ah, of course! My apologies. The answer to that is: 26 organizations would
be reinstated if this policy went through.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:32 AM <scott at solarnetone.org> wrote:

> Hi Alyssa,
>
> Good to speak with you.  Perhaps I mispoke... how many organizations were
> removed from the waitlist and are still seeking larger allocations?  If
> my understanding of the original issue appears unclear, please enlighten
> me!
>
> I am trying to determine if orgs other than the petitioner were
> effected; if so, how many, and what effect that would have on ARIN's
> related inventory of addresses allocatable via the waitlist (not including
> 4.10s, etc.).
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, Alyssa Moore wrote:
>
> > Hi Scott,
> >
> > Anita Nikolich (AC member) answered this on Dec 16:
> >
> > >Please note (and you can refer to the Nov AC minutes) that organizations
> > that are currently on the waitlist won’t be affected, because the next
> > disbursement of v4 would fulfill all the exempted orgs as well as the
> ones
> > remaining on the list. The overall impact to the current waitlist is
> > non-existent from these requests.
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:21 AM <scott at solarnetone.org> wrote:
> >       Hi John,
> >
> >       In these deliberations, I think it would be useful to know how
> >       many actual
> >       ARIN Member Organizations would be effected.  I am not talking
> >       about
> >       downstream customers, affiliates, or the like, but only resource
> >       holders
> >       on the actual waitlist.  Does John Sweeting have any metrics as
> >       to this?
> >       Further, if all effected organizations were to receive the
> >       allocations
> >       they are seeking, what percentage of the available address
> >       inventory would
> >       be immediately exhausted?
> >
> >       Thanks,
> >       Scott
> >
> >       On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, John Curran wrote:
> >
> >       > On 14 Jan 2021, at 11:00 AM, Michael B. Williams
> >       > <Michael.Williams at glexia.com> wrote:
> >       >
> >       >       How does ARIN analyze the response from this? Is there
> >       weight
> >       >       given only to ARIN member organizations or any
> >       organization? If
> >       >       anyone is given consideration, what is to stop people
> >       from
> >       >       lobbying individuals and other organizations to send an
> >       email to
> >       >       support their agenda? For example, I could very easily
> >       find 500
> >       >       people to respond to this email saying they do not
> >       support the
> >       >       policy. If I were a malicious actor trying to influence
> >       policy
> >       >       discussion and were to offer some sort of incentive for
> >       those to
> >       >       reply I could easily have thousands of organizations
> >       supporting
> >       >       this policy one way or another.
> >       >
> >       > My feelings would be the majority of the weight should be
> >       given to
> >       > ARIN member organizations voices as part of the tallying
> >       process. If
> >       > that is the case, perhaps we should ask those organizations to
> >       include
> >       > their ARIN org id?
> >       >
> >       >
> >       > Michael -
> >       >
> >       > The ARIN Policy Development Process specifies the petition
> >       appeal process,
> >       > and the sole criteria for a successful petition is expressions
> >       of support
> >       > from at least 25 different people from 25 different
> >       organizations.
> >       >
> >       > Note that a successful petition simply means that the policy –
> >       without any
> >       > recommendation of adoption from the ARIN Advisory Council –
> >       will be sent to
> >       > the ARIN Board of Trustees for their consideration of possible
> >       adoption.
> >       >  Also note that for the purpose of determining petition
> >       success, ARIN staff
> >       > will only be counting those messages which clearly indicate
> >       support for the
> >       > petition and include both the submitters name and their
> >       organization.
> >       >
> >       > The ARIN Board is on the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List, and
> >       will see any
> >       > discussion of substantial merits or concerns with the policy.
> >       Each trustee
> >       > is free to weight such input as they see fit, but at this
> >       point it is not a
> >       > numerical question – as we are not seeking a poll of support
> >       or opposition
> >       > to the policy – but rather simply whether at least 25
> >       organizations feel
> >       > (despite the ARIN AC’s decision not to recommend) that policy
> >       warrants
> >       > consideration by the ARIN Board of Trustees.
> >       >
> >       > Thanks,
> >       > /John
> >       >
> >       > John Curran
> >       > President and CEO
> >       > American Registry for Internet Numbers
> >       >
> >       >
> >       >
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