[arin-ppml] Of further interest...

[David Farmer]

Krebs has a good write up too

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2019/05/a-tough-week-for-ip-address-scammers/

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 2:57 PM Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com> wrote:

> From the indictment:
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> Substitution of assets:
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> If any of the assets described above as being subject to forfeiture, as a
> result of any act or omission of the defendants:
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> a)cannot be located upon the exercise of due diligence
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> b)has been transferred or sold to, or deposited with a third person
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> c)has been placed beyond the jurisdiction of the court
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> d)has been substantially diminished in value
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> e)has been commingled with other property that cannot be subdivided
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> It is the intent of the United States…..to seek forfeiture of any property
> of the defendant up to the amount equivalent to the value of the
> above-described forfeitable property.
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> *From:* Chris Woodfield <chris at semihuman.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:33 PM
> *To:* Douglas Haber <dhaber at gardenstatecomputing.com>
> *Cc:* Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com>; Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com>;
> arin-ppml <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] Of further interest...
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> I’d presume that if the blocks are forfeited to the US government, they
> will then be monetized on the transfer market, like most other forfeited
> assets; I wouldn’t expect them to be locked away*. Might take a while for
> the blocks to fall out of the routing table and actually become usable,
> however.
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> -C
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> On May 15, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Douglas Haber via ARIN-PPML <
> arin-ppml at arin.net> wrote:
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> I have reviewed the indictment and it has a forfeiture order in it. It
> lists the blocks and states that they shall be forfeited to the United
> States.
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> Now, my question is, does that affect ARIN reclaiming the blocks if they
> are surrendered to the government?
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> Douglas Haber
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> Managing Member
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> Garden State Computing, LLC
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> Tel: (973) 636-7350
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> www.gardenstatecomputing.com
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> support at gardenstatecomputing.com
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> *From:* ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> *On Behalf Of *Mike Burns
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:15 PM
> *To:* Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* arin-ppml <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [arin-ppml] Of further interest...
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> I have the indictment as a pdf but I don't think I can attach it on this
> mailing list. It is public information though.
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> I tried to convert it to text with bad results. If you can't find it and
> want to see it, let me know and I will put it up somewhere and link to it.
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> ---- On Wed, 15 May 2019 14:54:31 -0400 *Martin Hannigan
> <hannigan at gmail.com <hannigan at gmail.com>>* wrote ----
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> And PR
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> https://www.postandcourier.com/business/charleston-tech-firm-and-its-ceo-are-indicted-for-fraud/article_4ce68788-773c-11e9-845d-d358d719d2df.html
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> /lawnchair
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> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 14:44 Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com> wrote:
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> Other shoe dropped yesterday.
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> https://ecf.scd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/qrySummary.pl?250341
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> 20 counts of wire fraud.
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