<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Krebs has a good write up too<div><br></div><div><a href="https://krebsonsecurity.com/2019/05/a-tough-week-for-ip-address-scammers/">https://krebsonsecurity.com/2019/05/a-tough-week-for-ip-address-scammers/</a><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 2:57 PM Mike Burns <<a href="mailto:mike@iptrading.com">mike@iptrading.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_-6557818420301764460WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">From the indictment:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Substitution of assets:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">If any of the assets described above as being subject to forfeiture, as a result of any act or omission of the defendants:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">a)cannot be located upon the exercise of due diligence<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">b)has been transferred or sold to, or deposited with a third person<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">c)has been placed beyond the jurisdiction of the court<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">d)has been substantially diminished in value<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">e)has been commingled with other property that cannot be subdivided without difficulty<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">It is the intent of the United States…..to seek forfeiture of any property of the defendant up to the amount equivalent to the value of the above-described forfeitable property.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Chris Woodfield <<a href="mailto:chris@semihuman.com" target="_blank">chris@semihuman.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:33 PM<br><b>To:</b> Douglas Haber <<a href="mailto:dhaber@gardenstatecomputing.com" target="_blank">dhaber@gardenstatecomputing.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> Mike Burns <<a href="mailto:mike@iptrading.com" target="_blank">mike@iptrading.com</a>>; Martin Hannigan <<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com" target="_blank">hannigan@gmail.com</a>>; arin-ppml <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Of further interest...<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I’d presume that if the blocks are forfeited to the US government, they will then be monetized on the transfer market, like most other forfeited assets; I wouldn’t expect them to be locked away*. Might take a while for the blocks to fall out of the routing table and actually become usable, however. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">-C<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">On May 15, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Douglas Haber via ARIN-PPML <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I have reviewed the indictment and it has a forfeiture order in it. It lists the blocks and states that they shall be forfeited to the United States.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Now, my question is, does that affect ARIN reclaiming the blocks if they are surrendered to the government?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Douglas Haber</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Managing Member</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Garden State Computing, LLC</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New"">Tel: (973) 636-7350</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New""><a href="http://www.gardenstatecomputing.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">www.gardenstatecomputing.com</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New""><a href="mailto:support@gardenstatecomputing.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">support@gardenstatecomputing.com</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span class="gmail-m_-6557818420301764460apple-converted-space"> </span>ARIN-PPML <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net</a>><span class="gmail-m_-6557818420301764460apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="gmail-m_-6557818420301764460apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mike Burns<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="gmail-m_-6557818420301764460apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:15 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="gmail-m_-6557818420301764460apple-converted-space"> </span>Martin Hannigan <<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com" target="_blank">hannigan@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="gmail-m_-6557818420301764460apple-converted-space"> </span>arin-ppml <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" target="_blank">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="gmail-m_-6557818420301764460apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [arin-ppml] Of further interest...<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">I have the indictment as a pdf but I don't think I can attach it on this mailing list. It is public information though.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">I tried to convert it to text with bad results. If you can't find it and want to see it, let me know and I will put it up somewhere and link to it.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div id="gmail-m_-6557818420301764460Zm-_Id_-Sgn1"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">---- On Wed, 15 May 2019 14:54:31 -0400<span class="gmail-m_-6557818420301764460apple-converted-space"> </span><b>Martin Hannigan <<a href="mailto:hannigan@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">hannigan@gmail.com</span></a>></b><span class="gmail-m_-6557818420301764460apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote ----</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 5pt;margin:5pt 0in 5pt 3.75pt"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">And PR</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><a href="https://www.postandcourier.com/business/charleston-tech-firm-and-its-ceo-are-indicted-for-fraud/article_4ce68788-773c-11e9-845d-d358d719d2df.html" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">https://www.postandcourier.com/business/charleston-tech-firm-and-its-ceo-are-indicted-for-fraud/article_4ce68788-773c-11e9-845d-d358d719d2df.html</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">/lawnchair</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 14:44 Mike Burns <<a href="mailto:mike@iptrading.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">mike@iptrading.com</span></a>> wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif">Other shoe dropped yesterday.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"><a href="https://ecf.scd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/qrySummary.pl?250341" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">https://ecf.scd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/qrySummary.pl?250341</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span 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