[arin-ppml] Of further interest...

[Mike Burns]

>From the indictment:

 

Substitution of assets:

 

If any of the assets described above as being subject to forfeiture, as a result of any act or omission of the defendants:

 

a)cannot be located upon the exercise of due diligence

b)has been transferred or sold to, or deposited with a third person

c)has been placed beyond the jurisdiction of the court

d)has been substantially diminished in value

e)has been commingled with other property that cannot be subdivided without difficulty

 

It is the intent of the United States…..to seek forfeiture of any property of the defendant up to the amount equivalent to the value of the above-described forfeitable property.

 

 

 

 

From: Chris Woodfield <chris at semihuman.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:33 PM
To: Douglas Haber <dhaber at gardenstatecomputing.com>
Cc: Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com>; Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com>; arin-ppml <arin-ppml at arin.net>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Of further interest...

 

I’d presume that if the blocks are forfeited to the US government, they will then be monetized on the transfer market, like most other forfeited assets; I wouldn’t expect them to be locked away*. Might take a while for the blocks to fall out of the routing table and actually become usable, however. 

 

-C





On May 15, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Douglas Haber via ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml at arin.net <mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net> > wrote:

 

I have reviewed the indictment and it has a forfeiture order in it. It lists the blocks and states that they shall be forfeited to the United States.

 

Now, my question is, does that affect ARIN reclaiming the blocks if they are surrendered to the government?

 

Douglas Haber

Managing Member

Garden State Computing, LLC

Tel: (973) 636-7350

 <http://www.gardenstatecomputing.com/> www.gardenstatecomputing.com

 <mailto:support at gardenstatecomputing.com> support at gardenstatecomputing.com

 

From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net <mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> > On Behalf Of Mike Burns
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:15 PM
To: Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com <mailto:hannigan at gmail.com> >
Cc: arin-ppml <arin-ppml at arin.net <mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net> >
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Of further interest...

 

I have the indictment as a pdf but I don't think I can attach it on this mailing list. It is public information though.

I tried to convert it to text with bad results. If you can't find it and want to see it, let me know and I will put it up somewhere and link to it.

 

 

---- On Wed, 15 May 2019 14:54:31 -0400 Martin Hannigan < <mailto:hannigan at gmail.com> hannigan at gmail.com> wrote ----

 

 

And PR

 

 <https://www.postandcourier.com/business/charleston-tech-firm-and-its-ceo-are-indicted-for-fraud/article_4ce68788-773c-11e9-845d-d358d719d2df.html> https://www.postandcourier.com/business/charleston-tech-firm-and-its-ceo-are-indicted-for-fraud/article_4ce68788-773c-11e9-845d-d358d719d2df.html

 

 

/lawnchair

 

 

 

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 14:44 Mike Burns < <mailto:mike at iptrading.com> mike at iptrading.com> wrote:

Other shoe dropped yesterday.

 <https://ecf.scd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/qrySummary.pl?250341> https://ecf.scd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/qrySummary.pl?250341

 

20 counts of wire fraud.

 

 

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