[arin-ppml] Of further interest...

Wed May 15 15:59:50 EDT 2019

ARIN's revocation proceeds, but additional addresses and proceeds held by the party may now be subject to forfeiture.

/John

On May 15, 2019, at 3:50 PM, Douglas Haber via ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml at arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net>> wrote:

In this 3 places, John states addresses will be revoked:

  *   https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2019-May/033250.html
  *   https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2019-May/033234.html
  *   https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2019-May/033232.html

I was wondering if this indictment changes that.

John?

Douglas Haber
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From: Chris Woodfield <chris at semihuman.com<mailto:chris at semihuman.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:33 PM
To: Douglas Haber <dhaber at gardenstatecomputing.com<mailto:dhaber at gardenstatecomputing.com>>
Cc: Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com<mailto:mike at iptrading.com>>; Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com<mailto:hannigan at gmail.com>>; arin-ppml <arin-ppml at arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net>>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Of further interest...

I'd presume that if the blocks are forfeited to the US government, they will then be monetized on the transfer market, like most other forfeited assets; I wouldn't expect them to be locked away*. Might take a while for the blocks to fall out of the routing table and actually become usable, however.

-C

On May 15, 2019, at 12:27 PM, Douglas Haber via ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml at arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net>> wrote:

I have reviewed the indictment and it has a forfeiture order in it. It lists the blocks and states that they shall be forfeited to the United States.

Now, my question is, does that affect ARIN reclaiming the blocks if they are surrendered to the government?

Douglas Haber
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Garden State Computing, LLC
Tel: (973) 636-7350
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From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net>> On Behalf Of Mike Burns
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:15 PM
To: Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com<mailto:hannigan at gmail.com>>
Cc: arin-ppml <arin-ppml at arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net>>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Of further interest...

I have the indictment as a pdf but I don't think I can attach it on this mailing list. It is public information though.
I tried to convert it to text with bad results. If you can't find it and want to see it, let me know and I will put it up somewhere and link to it.

---- On Wed, 15 May 2019 14:54:31 -0400 Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com<mailto:hannigan at gmail.com>> wrote ----

And PR

https://www.postandcourier.com/business/charleston-tech-firm-and-its-ceo-are-indicted-for-fraud/article_4ce68788-773c-11e9-845d-d358d719d2df.html

/lawnchair

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 14:44 Mike Burns <mike at iptrading.com<mailto:mike at iptrading.com>> wrote:
Other shoe dropped yesterday.
https://ecf.scd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/qrySummary.pl?250341

20 counts of wire fraud.

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