[arin-ppml] prop266 - re-framing the discussion

[John Santos]

What is TAL?  Google search is useless, so don't tell me to look it up.

On 5/2/2019 06:09 PM, Carlos Friaças via ARIN-PPML wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Just a small note to say that i completely agree with you regarding the 
> TAL issue.
> 
>> From a global perspective, and to aid in RPKI deployment, the TAL issue 
> needs to be solved...
> 
> Regards,
> Carlos
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2 May 2019, Michel Py wrote:
> 
>>> Scott Leibrand wrote :
>>> But if we do decide we want ARIN to create acceptable standards of 
>>> conduct with
>>> regard to routing, and fine resource holders who violate it, under 
>>> threat of
>>> resource revocation if those fines aren't paid, there will need to be 
>>> a *lot*
>>
>> A *LOT* indeed
>>
>>> of work done to set up such a system so that it doesn't risk ARIN 
>>> picking a
>>> legal fight it's going to lose, and putting the entire registry at risk.
>>
>> I agree.
>>
>> And there is no such thing as zero risk with things that have not been 
>> tried in court before, so whatever new standard we create has to be 
>> absolutely airtight from a legal point of view. I find myself in an 
>> ironic position defending this, as I said in the past that ARIN was 
>> too paranoid about legal liability, but that is not the same risk 
>> factor than the TAL.
>>
>> And the fine has to be significant, or they'll pay it, which favors 
>> the rich.
>>
>> Michel.
>>
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