[arin-ppml] prop266 - re-framing the discussion

[Tal, Guy]

Did someone invoke my presence? Or are you talking about Trust Anchor Locator? 😊

Guy

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From: ARIN-PPML <arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> On Behalf Of John Santos
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 3:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] prop266 - re-framing the discussion

What is TAL?  Google search is useless, so don't tell me to look it up.

On 5/2/2019 06:09 PM, Carlos Friaças via ARIN-PPML wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Just a small note to say that i completely agree with you regarding
> the TAL issue.
>
>> From a global perspective, and to aid in RPKI deployment, the TAL
>> issue
> needs to be solved...
>
> Regards,
> Carlos
>
>
> On Thu, 2 May 2019, Michel Py wrote:
>
>>> Scott Leibrand wrote :
>>> But if we do decide we want ARIN to create acceptable standards of
>>> conduct with regard to routing, and fine resource holders who
>>> violate it, under threat of resource revocation if those fines
>>> aren't paid, there will need to be a *lot*
>>
>> A *LOT* indeed
>>
>>> of work done to set up such a system so that it doesn't risk ARIN
>>> picking a legal fight it's going to lose, and putting the entire
>>> registry at risk.
>>
>> I agree.
>>
>> And there is no such thing as zero risk with things that have not
>> been tried in court before, so whatever new standard we create has to
>> be absolutely airtight from a legal point of view. I find myself in
>> an ironic position defending this, as I said in the past that ARIN
>> was too paranoid about legal liability, but that is not the same risk
>> factor than the TAL.
>>
>> And the fine has to be significant, or they'll pay it, which favors
>> the rich.
>>
>> Michel.
>>
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