[arin-ppml] prop266 - re-framing the discussion

Carlos Friaças cfriacas at fccn.pt
Thu May 2 18:09:22 EDT 2019


Hi,

Just a small note to say that i completely agree with you regarding the 
TAL issue.

>From a global perspective, and to aid in RPKI deployment, the TAL issue 
needs to be solved...

Regards,
Carlos


On Thu, 2 May 2019, Michel Py wrote:

>> Scott Leibrand wrote :
>> But if we do decide we want ARIN to create acceptable standards of conduct with
>> regard to routing, and fine resource holders who violate it, under threat of
>> resource revocation if those fines aren't paid, there will need to be a *lot*
>
> A *LOT* indeed
>
>> of work done to set up such a system so that it doesn't risk ARIN picking a
>> legal fight it's going to lose, and putting the entire registry at risk.
>
> I agree.
>
> And there is no such thing as zero risk with things that have not been tried in court before, so whatever new standard we create has to be absolutely airtight from a legal point of view. I find myself in an ironic position defending this, as I said in the past that ARIN was too paranoid about legal liability, but that is not the same risk factor than the TAL.
>
> And the fine has to be significant, or they'll pay it, which favors the rich.
>
> Michel.
>
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