[arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2019-9: Clarify Interactions Between NRPM 4.10 IPv6 Transition Space Requests and NRPM 4.1.8.2 Unmet Needs Requests
Fernando Frediani
fhfrediani at gmail.com
Tue Jul 30 21:17:30 EDT 2019
I also don't believe this is a good change to be made for the same
reasons outlines by staff, therefore I can't support it as well
Thanks
Fernando
On 30/07/2019 16:49, Brian Jones wrote:
> With the clarification that organizations will be removed from the
> waiting list if they receive an allocation for facilitating their IPv6
> deployment, I no longer support this proposal for the reasons outlined
> by the ARIN staff below. My organization will not be impacted by this
> but I can understand where some could be detrimentally effected by
> this change. Receiving an allocation for deploying IPv6 should not be
> tied to the waiting list for a regular IPv4 assignment IMO.
>
> --
> Brian E Jones, CSP-SM, CSP-PO
> NI&S Virginia Tech
> bjones at vt.edu <mailto:bjones at vt.edu>
>
>> On Jul 30, 2019, at 1:33 PM, Kat Hunter <takokat81 at gmail.com
>> <mailto:takokat81 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> All- Staff and legal review has been completed for 2019-9. Please
>> take a moment to review the comments. For those that supported this,
>> do you still support the policy given the staff notes. Additionally,
>> we'd like to hear from anyone that this may impact in a negative way.
>>
>> Policy: https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_9/
>> Staff and Legal Review
>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_9/#slr
>>
>> "ARIN Staff Comments
>>
>> This policy could be implemented as written. Current policy is that
>> any organization on the waiting list that receives IPv4 addresses
>> through a transfer are removed from the waiting list, but those
>> receiving an NRPM 4.10 (Dedicated IPv4 Block to Facilitate IPv6
>> Deployment) assignment are not removed from the waiting list. The
>> proposed change would result those organizations receiving an NRPM
>> 4.10 assignment also being removed from the waiting list.
>>
>> Staff notes that adding the “…or an allocation request fulfilled
>> under Section 4.10…” may be detrimental to some organizations, as
>> address space received per NRPM 4.10 must be used in a manner
>> consistent with IPv6 translation services and cannot be used for
>> other purposes such as customer assignments, shared hosting services,
>> etc.
>>
>> Organizations need IPv4 address space to assign to their customers,
>> and many organizations will request a block from the Waiting List to
>> be used for their customer assignments but still need some IPv4 space
>> for deployment of IPv6 translation services as outlined in section
>> NRPM 4.10. Removing organizations from the Waiting List when they
>> receive a NRPM 4.10 assignment would hinder the existing IPv4
>> operations & growth of organizations, and may provide a disincentive
>> to IPv6 deployment."
>>
>>
>>
>> -Kat Hunter
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 1:42 PM Brian Jones <bjones at vt.edu
>> <mailto:bjones at vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> I support this revised version of draft policy ARIN-2019-9 as
>> written.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 23, 2019, 12:44 PM ARIN <info at arin.net
>> <mailto:info at arin.net>> wrote:
>>
>> The following has been revised:
>>
>> * Draft Policy ARIN-2019-9: Clarify Interactions Between NRPM
>> 4.10 IPv6
>> Transition Space Requests and NRPM 4.1.8.2 Unmet Needs Requests
>>
>> Revised text is below and can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_9/
>>
>> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The
>> AC will
>> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of
>> this Draft
>> Policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource
>> policy as
>> stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically,
>> these
>> principles are:
>>
>> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
>> * Technically Sound
>> * Supported by the Community
>>
>> The PDP can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
>>
>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sean Hopkins
>> Policy Analyst
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>
>>
>>
>> Draft Policy ARIN-2019-9: Clarify Interactions Between NRPM
>> 4.10 IPv6
>> Transition Space Requests and NRPM 4.1.8.2 Unmet Needs Requests
>>
>> Problem Statement:
>>
>> It has been observed that an organization requesting IPv4
>> resources
>> under NRPM Section 4.10, Dedicated IPv4 Block To Facilitate IPv6
>> Deployment, can also request similar or the same resources
>> under Section
>> 4.2.1.8, Unmet Needs. This proposal aims to remove this
>> potential for
>> duplicate requests under these sections.
>>
>> Policy Statement:
>>
>> Section 4.1.8.2, Unmet Needs:
>>
>> Current language: Any requests met through a transfer will be
>> considered
>> fulfilled and removed from the waiting list.
>>
>> Proposed language:
>>
>> Any requests met through a transfer or an allocation request
>> fulfilled
>> under Section 4.10 will be considered fulfilled and removed
>> from the
>> waiting list.
>>
>> Timetable for Implementation: Immediate
>>
>> Anything Else:
>>
>> Currently, organizations can receive no more than a /24 at a
>> time under
>> Section 4.10. However, Proposal ARIN-PROP-266, submitted by
>> Chris Tacit
>> and myself, could potentially allow an org to receive up to a
>> /21 under
>> that section, widening the potential for abuse by
>> “double-dipping”
>> waiting list and transition space requests. As such, this
>> proposal
>> should be considered in that context.
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