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<p>I also don't believe this is a good change to be made for the
same reasons outlines by staff, therefore I can't support it as
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<p>Thanks<br>
Fernando<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/07/2019 16:49, Brian Jones wrote:<br>
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With the clarification that organizations will be removed from the
waiting list if they receive an allocation for facilitating their
IPv6 deployment, I no longer support this proposal for the reasons
outlined by the ARIN staff below. My organization will not be
impacted by this but I can understand where some could be
detrimentally effected by this change. Receiving an allocation for
deploying IPv6 should not be tied to the waiting list for a
regular IPv4 assignment IMO.
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<div class="">On Jul 30, 2019, at 1:33 PM, Kat Hunter <<a
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<div dir="ltr" class="">All- Staff and legal review has
been completed for 2019-9. Please take a moment to
review the comments. For those that supported this, do
you still support the policy given the staff notes.
Additionally, we'd like to hear from anyone that this
may impact in a negative way.
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<div class="">Policy: <a
href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_9/"
class="" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_9/</a></div>
<div class="">Staff and Legal Review <a
href="https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_9/#slr"
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<div class="">"ARIN Staff Comments</div>
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This policy could be implemented as written. Current
policy is that any organization on the waiting list
that receives IPv4 addresses through a transfer are
removed from the waiting list, but those receiving an
NRPM 4.10 (Dedicated IPv4 Block to Facilitate IPv6
Deployment) assignment are not removed from the
waiting list. The proposed change would result those
organizations receiving an NRPM 4.10 assignment also
being removed from the waiting list.<br class="">
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Staff notes that adding the “…or an allocation request
fulfilled under Section 4.10…” may be detrimental to
some organizations, as address space received per NRPM
4.10 must be used in a manner consistent with IPv6
translation services and cannot be used for other
purposes such as customer assignments, shared hosting
services, etc.<br class="">
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Organizations need IPv4 address space to assign to
their customers, and many organizations will request a
block from the Waiting List to be used for their
customer assignments but still need some IPv4 space
for deployment of IPv6 translation services as
outlined in section NRPM 4.10. Removing organizations
from the Waiting List when they receive a NRPM 4.10
assignment would hinder the existing IPv4 operations
& growth of organizations, and may provide a
disincentive to IPv6 deployment."
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<div class="">I support this revised version of
draft policy ARIN-2019-9 as written.
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23, 2019, 12:44 PM ARIN <<a
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following has been revised:<br class="">
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* Draft Policy ARIN-2019-9: Clarify
Interactions Between NRPM 4.10 IPv6 <br
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Transition Space Requests and NRPM 4.1.8.2
Unmet Needs Requests<br class="">
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Revised text is below and can be found at:<br
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the conformance of this Draft <br class="">
Policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet
number resource policy as <br class="">
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Sean Hopkins<br class="">
Policy Analyst<br class="">
American Registry for Internet Numbers
(ARIN)<br class="">
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Draft Policy ARIN-2019-9: Clarify
Interactions Between NRPM 4.10 IPv6 <br
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Transition Space Requests and NRPM 4.1.8.2
Unmet Needs Requests<br class="">
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Problem Statement:<br class="">
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It has been observed that an organization
requesting IPv4 resources <br class="">
under NRPM Section 4.10, Dedicated IPv4
Block To Facilitate IPv6 <br class="">
Deployment, can also request similar or the
same resources under Section <br class="">
4.2.1.8, Unmet Needs. This proposal aims to
remove this potential for <br class="">
duplicate requests under these sections.<br
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Policy Statement:<br class="">
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Section 4.1.8.2, Unmet Needs:<br class="">
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Current language: Any requests met through a
transfer will be considered <br class="">
fulfilled and removed from the waiting list.<br
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Proposed language:<br class="">
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Any requests met through a transfer or an
allocation request fulfilled <br class="">
under Section 4.10 will be considered
fulfilled and removed from the <br class="">
waiting list.<br class="">
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Timetable for Implementation: Immediate<br
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Anything Else:<br class="">
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Currently, organizations can receive no more
than a /24 at a time under <br class="">
Section 4.10. However, Proposal
ARIN-PROP-266, submitted by Chris Tacit <br
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and myself, could potentially allow an org
to receive up to a /21 under <br class="">
that section, widening the potential for
abuse by “double-dipping” <br class="">
waiting list and transition space requests.
As such, this proposal <br class="">
should be considered in that context.<br
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