[arin-ppml] Revised - Draft Policy ARIN-2019-9: Clarify Interactions Between NRPM 4.10 IPv6 Transition Space Requests and NRPM 4.1.8.2 Unmet Needs Requests

Tue Jul 30 21:24:26 EDT 2019

Agreed, Brian.

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On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 3:50 PM Brian Jones <bjones at vt.edu> wrote:

> With the clarification that organizations will be removed from the waiting
> list if they receive an allocation for facilitating their IPv6 deployment,
> I no longer support this proposal for the reasons outlined by the ARIN
> staff below. My organization will not be impacted by this but I can
> understand where some could be detrimentally effected by this change.
> Receiving an allocation for deploying IPv6 should not be tied to the
> waiting list for a regular IPv4 assignment IMO.
>
> --
> Brian E Jones, CSP-SM, CSP-PO
> NI&S Virginia Tech
> bjones at vt.edu
>
> On Jul 30, 2019, at 1:33 PM, Kat Hunter <takokat81 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> All- Staff and legal review has been completed for 2019-9. Please take a
> moment to review the comments. For those that supported this, do you still
> support the policy given the staff notes. Additionally, we'd like to hear
> from anyone that this may impact in a negative way.
>
> Policy: https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_9/
> Staff and Legal Review
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_9/#slr
>
> "ARIN Staff Comments
>
> This policy could be implemented as written. Current policy is that any
> organization on the waiting list that receives IPv4 addresses through a
> transfer are removed from the waiting list, but those receiving an NRPM
> 4.10 (Dedicated IPv4 Block to Facilitate IPv6 Deployment) assignment are
> not removed from the waiting list. The proposed change would result those
> organizations receiving an NRPM 4.10 assignment also being removed from the
> waiting list.
>
> Staff notes that adding the “…or an allocation request fulfilled under
> Section 4.10…” may be detrimental to some organizations, as address space
> received per NRPM 4.10 must be used in a manner consistent with IPv6
> translation services and cannot be used for other purposes such as customer
> assignments, shared hosting services, etc.
>
> Organizations need IPv4 address space to assign to their customers, and
> many organizations will request a block from the Waiting List to be used
> for their customer assignments but still need some IPv4 space for
> deployment of IPv6 translation services as outlined in section NRPM 4.10.
> Removing organizations from the Waiting List when they receive a NRPM 4.10
> assignment would hinder the existing IPv4 operations & growth of
> organizations, and may provide a disincentive to IPv6 deployment."
>
>
>
> -Kat Hunter
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 1:42 PM Brian Jones <bjones at vt.edu> wrote:
>
>> I support this revised version of draft policy ARIN-2019-9 as written.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 23, 2019, 12:44 PM ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The following has been revised:
>>>
>>> * Draft Policy ARIN-2019-9: Clarify Interactions Between NRPM 4.10 IPv6
>>> Transition Space Requests and NRPM 4.1.8.2 Unmet Needs Requests
>>>
>>> Revised text is below and can be found at:
>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_9/
>>>
>>> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
>>> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this Draft
>>> Policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as
>>> stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these
>>> principles are:
>>>
>>> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
>>> * Technically Sound
>>> * Supported by the Community
>>>
>>> The PDP can be found at:
>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
>>>
>>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
>>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Sean Hopkins
>>> Policy Analyst
>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Draft Policy ARIN-2019-9: Clarify Interactions Between NRPM 4.10 IPv6
>>> Transition Space Requests and NRPM 4.1.8.2 Unmet Needs Requests
>>>
>>> Problem Statement:
>>>
>>> It has been observed that an organization requesting IPv4 resources
>>> under NRPM Section 4.10, Dedicated IPv4 Block To Facilitate IPv6
>>> Deployment, can also request similar or the same resources under Section
>>> 4.2.1.8, Unmet Needs. This proposal aims to remove this potential for
>>> duplicate requests under these sections.
>>>
>>> Policy Statement:
>>>
>>> Section 4.1.8.2, Unmet Needs:
>>>
>>> Current language: Any requests met through a transfer will be considered
>>> fulfilled and removed from the waiting list.
>>>
>>> Proposed language:
>>>
>>> Any requests met through a transfer or an allocation request fulfilled
>>> under Section 4.10 will be considered fulfilled and removed from the
>>> waiting list.
>>>
>>> Timetable for Implementation: Immediate
>>>
>>> Anything Else:
>>>
>>> Currently, organizations can receive no more than a /24 at a time under
>>> Section 4.10. However, Proposal ARIN-PROP-266, submitted by Chris Tacit
>>> and myself, could potentially allow an org to receive up to a /21 under
>>> that section, widening the potential for abuse by “double-dipping”
>>> waiting list and transition space requests. As such, this proposal
>>> should be considered in that context.
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