[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

Mike Burns mike at iptrading.com
Thu Feb 1 11:57:59 EST 2018


Hello,

 

The transfer logs at APNIC and RIPE indicate that inter-regional transfers have been completed.

I consider that objective evidence of need for this functionality. 

 

Can somebody provide a downside to the approval of this policy?

Staff work? The heavy lifting has already been provided by APNIC and RIPE.

 

Is it important for us to determine every possible reason why people need this functionality?

Shouldn’t our default position be trying to answer their need unless there is a reason not to?

 

Regards,

Mike

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: ARIN-PPML [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 11:40 AM
To: WOOD Alison * DAS <Alison.WOOD at oregon.gov>
Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

 

IMHO, yes.

 

For A), I’m not sure I see the need to support these transactions. We don’t support them for IPv6 (nor do I think we want to).

Sales of IPv4 addresses were a stop-gap to deal with a situation of scarcity, free pool exhaustion, and getting by until v6

is widely enough deployed. Hopefully they will eventually go away and we can return to more traditional forms of resource management.

 

For B), I’m still not convinced. They can’t move their IPv6 resources (nor do I think we want to support doing so). The ability to move their IPv4 resources is largely an artifact of the same scarcity/free pool exhaustion described above. However, my objections to solving this particular problem are a bit less than my objections to solving problem A).

 

Owen

 

On Feb 1, 2018, at 06:51 , WOOD Alison * DAS <Alison.WOOD at oregon.gov <mailto:Alison.WOOD at oregon.gov> > wrote:

 

Thank you all for the excellent feedback on this draft.

 

Considering James’ suggestions, would the community prefer to take each point as a different proposal?  They seem to be two different solutions to two different issues.

 

Thanks!

 

-Alison

 

From: ARIN-PPML [ <mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net> mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of james machado
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 12:47 PM
To:  <mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net> arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2018-1: Allow Inter-regional ASN Transfers

 

So we seem to have 2  "problems" for this draft if I am reading correctly.

 

A) An Entity wishes to buy/sell/transfer one or more ASN(s) to another Entity without regard of the destination RIR.  

 

B) Entity with one or more ASN(s) wishes to move one or more ASN(s) to a new RIR, possibly complementing an IP move, to begin/continue operations in the destination RIR.

 

James

 

 

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