[arin-ppml] Revised: Draft Policy ARIN-2017-8: Amend the Definition of Community Network

[Kevin Blumberg]

David,

I appreciate that, I missed it 😊

Given that I will add one more concern.

I am opposed to the policy if it includes “or other Information Technology services”. That would basically be any defined organization that has a website.

Thanks,

Kevin Blumberg

From: David Farmer [mailto:farmer at umn.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 1:51 PM
To: Kevin Blumberg <kevinb at thewire.ca>
Cc: andrew.dul at quark.net; arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised: Draft Policy ARIN-2017-8: Amend the Definition of Community Network

Kevin,

On that page (https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_8.html) the "current version" is higher on the page and the "earlier version" is lower on the page, below the marking;

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Earlier Version

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This is extra confusing in that both versions seem have the same version date of 24 August 2017. I believe the "earlier version" should have a version date of 22 August 2017, at least based on the information in Discussion Tracking section above. I have a request into Staff asking for this to be corrected.

For Clarity the current version of the NEW NRPM TEXT is:

"2.11 Community Network

A community network is a network organized and operated by a volunteer group, not-for-profit, non-profit, charitable organization, or educational institution for the purpose of providing free or low-cost connectivity, or other Information Technology services to persons or entities within their community. Critical functions may be handled by paid staff, but volunteers play a large role in offering services available through community networks."

Sorry about the confusion, hope that helps.

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Kevin Blumberg <kevinb at thewire.ca<mailto:kevinb at thewire.ca>> wrote:
Andrew,

Is this the current text of the policy?

The text on 2017-8 on the website does not match. The text below includes " or other Information Technology services" which does not appear on the website (https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_8.html)

Can you please confirm which is the correct version, I have written my repsonses based on the website.

1) Can a "Volunteer Group" sign the RSA?
2) Is charitable organization a synonym or fall under the umbrella of non-profit?
3) Why is the scope limited to post-secondary institution when many smaller communities would not have that? Could accredited educational institution be used instead?
4) I agree with Chris W. that "play a large role" is very ambigous.
5) The last sentence should be reworded completely. Critical functions may be handled by paid staff, implies that volunteers shouldn't handle Critical functions or that paid staff shouldn't handle menial work?

Thanks,

Kevin Blumberg

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