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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">David,<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I appreciate that, I missed it
</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">😊</span></span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Given that I will add one more concern.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I am opposed to the policy if it includes “or other Information Technology services”. That would basically be any defined organization that has a website.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailEndCompose"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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Kevin Blumberg<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> David Farmer [mailto:farmer@umn.edu]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 20, 2017 1:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kevin Blumberg <kevinb@thewire.ca><br>
<b>Cc:</b> andrew.dul@quark.net; arin-ppml@arin.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [arin-ppml] Revised: Draft Policy ARIN-2017-8: Amend the Definition of Community Network<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kevin,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On that page (<a href="https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_8.html" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_8.html</a>) the "current version" is higher on the page and the "earlier version" is lower on the page,
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is extra confusing in that both versions seem have the same version date of 24 August 2017. I believe the "earlier version" should have a version date of 22 August 2017, at<span style="font-size:9.5pt"> least based on the information
in Discussion Tracking section above. I have a request into Staff asking for this to be corrected.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">For Clarity the current version of the NEW NRPM TEXT is:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">"2.11 Community Network </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">A community network is a network organized and operated by a volunteer group, not-for-profit, non-profit, charitable organization, or educational institution for the purpose of providing free or low-cost connectivity,
or other Information Technology services to persons or entities within their community. Critical functions may be handled by paid staff, but volunteers play a large role in offering services available through community networks."</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">Sorry about the confusion, hope that helps.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Kevin Blumberg <<a href="mailto:kevinb@thewire.ca" target="_blank">kevinb@thewire.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Andrew,<br>
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Is this the current text of the policy?<br>
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The text on 2017-8 on the website does not match. The text below includes " or other Information Technology services" which does not appear on the website (<a href="https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_8.html" target="_blank">https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_8.html</a>)<br>
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Can you please confirm which is the correct version, I have written my repsonses based on the website.<br>
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1) Can a "Volunteer Group" sign the RSA?<br>
2) Is charitable organization a synonym or fall under the umbrella of non-profit?<br>
3) Why is the scope limited to post-secondary institution when many smaller communities would not have that? Could accredited educational institution be used instead?<br>
4) I agree with Chris W. that "play a large role" is very ambigous.<br>
5) The last sentence should be reworded completely. Critical functions may be handled by paid staff, implies that volunteers shouldn't handle Critical functions or that paid staff shouldn't handle menial work?<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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Kevin Blumberg<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">===============================================<br>
David Farmer <a href="mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu" target="_blank">
Email:farmer@umn.edu</a><br>
Networking & Telecommunication Services<br>
Office of Information Technology<br>
University of Minnesota <br>
2218 University Ave SE Phone: <a href="tel:(612)%20626-0815" target="_blank">
612-626-0815</a><br>
Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: <a href="tel:(612)%20812-9952" target="_blank">
612-812-9952</a><br>
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