[arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of Assignment Registration requirements
Rudolph Daniel
rudi.daniel at gmail.com
Tue Aug 15 15:05:25 EDT 2017
In general support of 2017-5 draft as written.
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> 3. Revised: Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of Assignment
> Registration requirements between IPv4 and IPv6 (ARIN)
> 4. Re: Revised: Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of
> Assignment Registration requirements between IPv4 and IPv6
> (David Huberman)
> 5. Re: Revised: Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of
> Assignment Registration requirements between IPv4 and IPv6
> (Chris Woodfield)
> 6. Re: Revised: Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of
> Assignment Registration requirements between IPv4 and IPv6
> (Austin Murkland)
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> On 22 June 2017, the Board of Trustees adopted the following Recommended
> Draft Policies:
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> Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2016-3: Alternative simplified criteria
> for justifying small IPv4 transfers
>
> Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2016-9: Streamline Merger & Acquisition
> Transfers
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> These policies are now in effect. A new version of the ARIN Number
> Resource Policy Manual (NRPM) has been published to the ARIN website.
>
> NRPM version 2017.4 is effective 8 August 2017 and supersedes the
> previous version.
>
> The NRPM is available at:
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> The ARIN Policy Development Process (PDP) is available at:
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> Regards,
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> Sean Hopkins
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> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 13:06:58 -0400
> From: ARIN <info at arin.net>
> To: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: [arin-ppml] Revised: Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization
> of Assignment Registration requirements between IPv4 and IPv6
> Message-ID: <59932A32.8010708 at arin.net>
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> The following has been revised:
>
> * Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of Assignment Registration
> requirements between IPv4 and IPv6
>
> Revised text is below and can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_5.html
>
> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft
> policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as
> stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these
> principles are:
>
> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
> * Technically Sound
> * Supported by the Community
>
> The PDP can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>
> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
>
> Regards,
>
> Sean Hopkins
> Policy Analyst
> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>
>
>
>
> Problem Statement:
>
> Current ARIN policy has different WHOIS directory registration
> requirements for IPv4 vs IPv6 address assignments. IPv4 registration is
> triggered for an assignment of any address block equal to or greater
> than a /29 (i.e., eight IPv4 addresses). In the case of IPv6,
> registration occurs for an assignment of any block equal to or greater
> than a /64, which constitutes one entire IPv6 subnet and is the minimum
> block size for an allocation. Accordingly, there is a significant
> disparity between IPv4 and IPv6 WHOIS registration thresholds in the
> case of assignments, resulting in more work in the case of IPv6 than is
> the case for IPv4. There is no technical or policy rationale for the
> disparity, which could serve as a deterrent to more rapid IPv6 adoption.
> The purpose of this proposal is to eliminate the disparity and
> corresponding adverse consequences.
>
> Policy statement:
>
> 1) Alter section 6.5.5.1 "Reassignment information" of the NRPM to
> strike "/64 or more addresses" and change to "/47 or more addresses, or
> subdelegation of any size that will be individually announced,"
>
> and
>
> 2) Alter section 6.5.5.3.1. "Residential Customer Privacy" of the NRPM
> by deleting the phrase "holding /64 and larger blocks"
>
> and
>
> 3) Add new section 6.5.5.4 "Downstream Registration Requests" to the
> NRPM that reads "If the downstream recipient of a netblock ( a /64 or
> more addresses) requests publishing in ARIN's registration database, the
> ISP must register the netblock, regardless of size."
>
> Comments:
>
> a. Timetable for implementation: Policy should be adopted as soon as
> possible.
>
> b. Anything else:
>
> Author Comments:
>
> IPv6 should not be more burdensome than the equivalent IPv4 network
> size. Currently, assignments of /29 or more of IPv4 space (8 addresses)
> require registration. The greatest majority of ISP customers who have
> assignments of IPv4 space are of a single IPv4 address which do not
> trigger any ARIN registration requirement when using IPv4. This is NOT
> true when these same exact customers use IPv6, as assignments of /64 or
> more of IPv6 space require registration. Beginning with RFC 3177, it has
> been standard practice to assign a minimum assignment of /64 to every
> customer end user site, and less is never used. This means that ALL
> IPv6 assignments, including those customers that only use a single IPv4
> address must be registered with ARIN if they are given the minimum
> assignment of /64 of IPv6 space. This additional effort may prevent
> ISP's from giving IPv6 addresses because of the additional expense of
> registering those addresses with ARIN, which is not required for IPv4.
> The administrative burden of 100% customer registration of IPv6
> customers is unreasonable, when such is not required for those customers
> receiving only IPv4 connections.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 14:03:55 -0400
> From: David Huberman <daveid at panix.com>
> To: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised: Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5:
> Equalization of Assignment Registration requirements between IPv4
> and
> IPv6
> Message-ID: <4A6F1E24-9D75-4D72-9F0E-D795C5CF03FD at panix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Very well done, everyone! Strongly support this draft.
>
> Kudos to Albert Erdmann and the AC shepherds for their leadership on this
> proposal.
>
>
> > On Aug 15, 2017, at 1:06 PM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
> >
> > The following has been revised:
> >
> > * Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of Assignment Registration
> requirements between IPv4 and IPv6
> >
> > Revised text is below and can be found at:
> > https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_5.html
> >
> > You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft
> policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated
> in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:
> >
> > * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
> > * Technically Sound
> > * Supported by the Community
> >
> > The PDP can be found at:
> > https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
> >
> > Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> > https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sean Hopkins
> > Policy Analyst
> > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Problem Statement:
> >
> > Current ARIN policy has different WHOIS directory registration
> requirements for IPv4 vs IPv6 address assignments. IPv4 registration is
> triggered for an assignment of any address block equal to or greater than a
> /29 (i.e., eight IPv4 addresses). In the case of IPv6, registration occurs
> for an assignment of any block equal to or greater than a /64, which
> constitutes one entire IPv6 subnet and is the minimum block size for an
> allocation. Accordingly, there is a significant disparity between IPv4 and
> IPv6 WHOIS registration thresholds in the case of assignments, resulting in
> more work in the case of IPv6 than is the case for IPv4. There is no
> technical or policy rationale for the disparity, which could serve as a
> deterrent to more rapid IPv6 adoption. The purpose of this proposal is to
> eliminate the disparity and corresponding adverse consequences.
> >
> > Policy statement:
> >
> > 1) Alter section 6.5.5.1 "Reassignment information" of the NRPM to
> strike "/64 or more addresses" and change to "/47 or more addresses, or
> subdelegation of any size that will be individually announced,"
> >
> > and
> >
> > 2) Alter section 6.5.5.3.1. "Residential Customer Privacy" of the NRPM
> by deleting the phrase "holding /64 and larger blocks"
> >
> > and
> >
> > 3) Add new section 6.5.5.4 "Downstream Registration Requests" to the
> NRPM that reads "If the downstream recipient of a netblock ( a /64 or more
> addresses) requests publishing in ARIN's registration database, the ISP
> must register the netblock, regardless of size."
> >
> > Comments:
> >
> > a. Timetable for implementation: Policy should be adopted as soon as
> possible.
> >
> > b. Anything else:
> >
> > Author Comments:
> >
> > IPv6 should not be more burdensome than the equivalent IPv4 network
> size. Currently, assignments of /29 or more of IPv4 space (8 addresses)
> require registration. The greatest majority of ISP customers who have
> assignments of IPv4 space are of a single IPv4 address which do not trigger
> any ARIN registration requirement when using IPv4. This is NOT true when
> these same exact customers use IPv6, as assignments of /64 or more of IPv6
> space require registration. Beginning with RFC 3177, it has been standard
> practice to assign a minimum assignment of /64 to every customer end user
> site, and less is never used. This means that ALL IPv6 assignments,
> including those customers that only use a single IPv4 address must be
> registered with ARIN if they are given the minimum assignment of /64 of
> IPv6 space. This additional effort may prevent ISP's from giving IPv6
> addresses because of the additional expense of registering those addresses
> with ARIN, which is not required for IPv4. The adm
> inistrative burden of 100% customer registration of IPv6 customers is
> unreasonable, when such is not required for those customers receiving only
> IPv4 connections.
> > _______________________________________________
> > PPML
> > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to
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> > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:
> > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml
> > Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 11:08:10 -0700
> From: Chris Woodfield <chris at semihuman.com>
> To: David Huberman <daveid at panix.com>, arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised: Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5:
> Equalization of Assignment Registration requirements between IPv4
> and
> IPv6
> Message-ID: <1C167E2A-B184-49BD-B309-2F6A322DA125 at semihuman.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Agreed. While there are a wide range of opinions on where this line
> belongs, The /47 line appears to have the most consensus, and has my
> support.
>
> -Chris
>
> > On Aug 15, 2017, at 11:03 AM, David Huberman <daveid at panix.com> wrote:
> >
> > Very well done, everyone! Strongly support this draft.
> >
> > Kudos to Albert Erdmann and the AC shepherds for their leadership on
> this proposal.
> >
> >
> >> On Aug 15, 2017, at 1:06 PM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> The following has been revised:
> >>
> >> * Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of Assignment Registration
> requirements between IPv4 and IPv6
> >>
> >> Revised text is below and can be found at:
> >> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_5.html
> >>
> >> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft
> policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated
> in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:
> >>
> >> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
> >> * Technically Sound
> >> * Supported by the Community
> >>
> >> The PDP can be found at:
> >> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
> >>
> >> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> >> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Sean Hopkins
> >> Policy Analyst
> >> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Problem Statement:
> >>
> >> Current ARIN policy has different WHOIS directory registration
> requirements for IPv4 vs IPv6 address assignments. IPv4 registration is
> triggered for an assignment of any address block equal to or greater than a
> /29 (i.e., eight IPv4 addresses). In the case of IPv6, registration occurs
> for an assignment of any block equal to or greater than a /64, which
> constitutes one entire IPv6 subnet and is the minimum block size for an
> allocation. Accordingly, there is a significant disparity between IPv4 and
> IPv6 WHOIS registration thresholds in the case of assignments, resulting in
> more work in the case of IPv6 than is the case for IPv4. There is no
> technical or policy rationale for the disparity, which could serve as a
> deterrent to more rapid IPv6 adoption. The purpose of this proposal is to
> eliminate the disparity and corresponding adverse consequences.
> >>
> >> Policy statement:
> >>
> >> 1) Alter section 6.5.5.1 "Reassignment information" of the NRPM to
> strike "/64 or more addresses" and change to "/47 or more addresses, or
> subdelegation of any size that will be individually announced,"
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >> 2) Alter section 6.5.5.3.1. "Residential Customer Privacy" of the NRPM
> by deleting the phrase "holding /64 and larger blocks"
> >>
> >> and
> >>
> >> 3) Add new section 6.5.5.4 "Downstream Registration Requests" to the
> NRPM that reads "If the downstream recipient of a netblock ( a /64 or more
> addresses) requests publishing in ARIN's registration database, the ISP
> must register the netblock, regardless of size."
> >>
> >> Comments:
> >>
> >> a. Timetable for implementation: Policy should be adopted as soon as
> possible.
> >>
> >> b. Anything else:
> >>
> >> Author Comments:
> >>
> >> IPv6 should not be more burdensome than the equivalent IPv4 network
> size. Currently, assignments of /29 or more of IPv4 space (8 addresses)
> require registration. The greatest majority of ISP customers who have
> assignments of IPv4 space are of a single IPv4 address which do not trigger
> any ARIN registration requirement when using IPv4. This is NOT true when
> these same exact customers use IPv6, as assignments of /64 or more of IPv6
> space require registration. Beginning with RFC 3177, it has been standard
> practice to assign a minimum assignment of /64 to every customer end user
> site, and less is never used. This means that ALL IPv6 assignments,
> including those customers that only use a single IPv4 address must be
> registered with ARIN if they are given the minimum assignment of /64 of
> IPv6 space. This additional effort may prevent ISP's from giving IPv6
> addresses because of the additional expense of registering those addresses
> with ARIN, which is not required for IPv4. The ad
> m
> > inistrative burden of 100% customer registration of IPv6 customers is
> unreasonable, when such is not required for those customers receiving only
> IPv4 connections.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> PPML
> >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to
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> >> Please contact info at arin.net if you experience any issues.
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 14:09:18 -0400
> From: Austin Murkland <austin.murkland at qscend.com>
> To: Chris Woodfield <chris at semihuman.com>
> Cc: David Huberman <daveid at panix.com>, arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revised: Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5:
> Equalization of Assignment Registration requirements between IPv4
> and
> IPv6
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> Concur with the above, Support the draft as written.
>
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Chris Woodfield <chris at semihuman.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Agreed. While there are a wide range of opinions on where this line
> > belongs, The /47 line appears to have the most consensus, and has my
> > support.
> >
> > -Chris
> >
> > > On Aug 15, 2017, at 11:03 AM, David Huberman <daveid at panix.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Very well done, everyone! Strongly support this draft.
> > >
> > > Kudos to Albert Erdmann and the AC shepherds for their leadership on
> > this proposal.
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Aug 15, 2017, at 1:06 PM, ARIN <info at arin.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> The following has been revised:
> > >>
> > >> * Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of Assignment Registration
> > requirements between IPv4 and IPv6
> > >>
> > >> Revised text is below and can be found at:
> > >> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_5.html
> > >>
> > >> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
> > evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft
> > policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as
> stated
> > in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles
> are:
> > >>
> > >> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
> > >> * Technically Sound
> > >> * Supported by the Community
> > >>
> > >> The PDP can be found at:
> > >> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
> > >>
> > >> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
> > >> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> Sean Hopkins
> > >> Policy Analyst
> > >> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Problem Statement:
> > >>
> > >> Current ARIN policy has different WHOIS directory registration
> > requirements for IPv4 vs IPv6 address assignments. IPv4 registration is
> > triggered for an assignment of any address block equal to or greater
> than a
> > /29 (i.e., eight IPv4 addresses). In the case of IPv6, registration
> occurs
> > for an assignment of any block equal to or greater than a /64, which
> > constitutes one entire IPv6 subnet and is the minimum block size for an
> > allocation. Accordingly, there is a significant disparity between IPv4
> and
> > IPv6 WHOIS registration thresholds in the case of assignments, resulting
> in
> > more work in the case of IPv6 than is the case for IPv4. There is no
> > technical or policy rationale for the disparity, which could serve as a
> > deterrent to more rapid IPv6 adoption. The purpose of this proposal is to
> > eliminate the disparity and corresponding adverse consequences.
> > >>
> > >> Policy statement:
> > >>
> > >> 1) Alter section 6.5.5.1 "Reassignment information" of the NRPM to
> > strike "/64 or more addresses" and change to "/47 or more addresses, or
> > subdelegation of any size that will be individually announced,"
> > >>
> > >> and
> > >>
> > >> 2) Alter section 6.5.5.3.1. "Residential Customer Privacy" of the NRPM
> > by deleting the phrase "holding /64 and larger blocks"
> > >>
> > >> and
> > >>
> > >> 3) Add new section 6.5.5.4 "Downstream Registration Requests" to the
> > NRPM that reads "If the downstream recipient of a netblock ( a /64 or
> more
> > addresses) requests publishing in ARIN's registration database, the ISP
> > must register the netblock, regardless of size."
> > >>
> > >> Comments:
> > >>
> > >> a. Timetable for implementation: Policy should be adopted as soon
> as
> > possible.
> > >>
> > >> b. Anything else:
> > >>
> > >> Author Comments:
> > >>
> > >> IPv6 should not be more burdensome than the equivalent IPv4 network
> > size. Currently, assignments of /29 or more of IPv4 space (8 addresses)
> > require registration. The greatest majority of ISP customers who have
> > assignments of IPv4 space are of a single IPv4 address which do not
> trigger
> > any ARIN registration requirement when using IPv4. This is NOT true when
> > these same exact customers use IPv6, as assignments of /64 or more of
> IPv6
> > space require registration. Beginning with RFC 3177, it has been standard
> > practice to assign a minimum assignment of /64 to every customer end user
> > site, and less is never used. This means that ALL IPv6 assignments,
> > including those customers that only use a single IPv4 address must be
> > registered with ARIN if they are given the minimum assignment of /64 of
> > IPv6 space. This additional effort may prevent ISP's from giving IPv6
> > addresses because of the additional expense of registering those
> addresses
> > with ARIN, which is not required for IPv4. The ad
> > m
> > > inistrative burden of 100% customer registration of IPv6 customers is
> > unreasonable, when such is not required for those customers receiving
> only
> > IPv4 connections.
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> PPML
> > >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to
> > >> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML at arin.net).
> > >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:
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> > >>
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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