[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks

[Steven Ryerse]

It appears to me that you are still trying to somehow save IPv4 from exhaustion. That horse is out of the barn and gone.

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From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Sprunk
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:26 PM
To: arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks

On 25-Sep-15 12:48, Steven Ryerse wrote:
> Owens comment from below:
>
> “2. To the extent that there is supply, anyone who needs addresses
> can get them already. Needs-based evaluation does not prevent those
> with need from getting addresses… It prevents those without need from
> getting them.”
>
> Owen’s comment is absolutely false!!!!!  It allows large organizing
> who request resources to get what they need or something smaller.  It
> allows medium size organizations who request resources to get what
> they need or something smaller.  It allows small organizations who
> request resources to get what they need or nothing, and there is no
> other source to get resources if ARIN rejects a request, but the open
> market which Owen and others seem to wish did not exist!
>
> It is time to fix this inequity and removing needs tests would be a
> big help to small organizations who really need resources!

If they actually need the resources, then a needs-based policy does not present an obstacle.  Where's the problem?

However, not having such a policy will mean that folks who _don't_ need resources can also get them, which makes the (IPv4) scarcity problem even worse than it already is.  That benefits speculators at the expense of those who actually need resources.

You appear to be arguing against your stated interests.

S

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