[arin-ppml] Support for 2015-5 (Expand permitted out-of-region use of IPv4 space)

[John Curran]

On Sep 15, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com<mailto:hannigan at gmail.com>> wrote:
This is all not only possible, but in practice. ARIN has known that this has been happening for many years now. See slide 7 http://bit.ly/1ifoSAV for at least the start of the conversation. There's a great pub tale around how this story developed. See me in Montreal. :)

Correct - such use of address space works because overall the ISP community
appears to want it to.

i.e. there is no need for ARIN (or any other RIR) to take any action unless the
community determines otherwise and specifies actual policy in this area.  If folks
want it to work otherwise, then they know how to develop policy accordingly.

See my email to this list from 2012 on this topic...
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN

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From: John Curran <jcurran at arin.net<mailto:jcurran at arin.net>>
Subject: [arin-ppml] Leasing (was: Re: IPv4 Update)
Date: August 22, 2012 9:18:33 PM EDT
To: Enrique Garcia <Enrique.Garcia at sidera.net<mailto:Enrique.Garcia at sidera.net>>
Cc: "arin-ppml at arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net>" <arin-ppml at arin.net<mailto:arin-ppml at arin.net>>

On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Enrique Garcia <Enrique.Garcia at sidera.net<mailto:Enrique.Garcia at sidera.net>> wrote:

I received an e-mail this morning from a company claiming that IP Space can now be leased.

Was just wondering if this was legal.

Enrique -

  If by "legal", you mean "in compliance with the community number resource
  management policy in this region", then perhaps I can provide some insight.

  Internet service providers routinely provide IP address assignments as part
  of their Internet services bundle, and those assignments are not permanent
  in nature but only for the duration of the service agreement.   Many would
  consider such assignments to be "leased IP address space".

  Organizations receiving IP address space (as the recipient of a transfer or
  via allocations of IP address space from the free pool) as an ISP must meet
  the LIR definition (per NRPM 2.4) and that means "primarily assigning address
  space to the users of the network services that it provides."   End-users
  receiving transfers or assignments of IP address space from the free pool
  must meet the End-user definition (per NRPM 2.6) during their request which
  requires they be receiving space to be used "exclusively for use in its
  operational networks."

  Ergo, the "leasing" of recently received space could reasonably raise
  concern about whether the request to ARIN for that space was made with
  full sincerity, and organizations would be advised not to request to receive
  IP address from the free pool or as the recipient of a transfer if their intent
  is to "lease" the space rather then use it for their network service customers
  (if an ISP) or use it for their own network (if they applied as an end-user.)

  There has been no policy development specifically regarding leasing as an
  appropriate/inappropriate use of held IP address space, so ARIN does not
  have a position either way (aside from the case above of insuring that
  requests to receive additional address space are made in good faith based
  on existing definitions of usage.)  Obviously, individual  Internet service
  providers may have their own views on handling of "leased" address space,
  depending on any number of factors including registrant and block size.

  I hope this helps somewhat in understanding the situation, recognizing
  that it is not likely to be as complete an answer as you would have liked.

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
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